though tunstall would someday qualify for parole, mcmillen had life without. >> i know i'm going back world one day. so you know, the only thing i can do is make the best out of my situation. so i kick it around individuals with minds on the street. that way i won't fall victim to whatever is going on inside these walls. >> you have a lot of people that don't understand time because they don't have any. so if i got life without parole, my mind, then i'm going to be here forever if i don't do something about it. >> once i get out by him having life without i want to help him get out. but as long as i'm here i want to make sure he's all right. so it's a bond that nobody can come between, unless one of us die. >> coming up -- >> when did you cut yourself? yesterday? two days ago? >> not bad, though. >> let's see. well, it's bad enough. >> one of the most complicated jobs in a complicated world. >> i didn't do it. i'm innocent. let me out. i was framed. >>> the men and women who work in prison walk a thin line every day. to effectively perform their duties they have to know inmates on a p

front row seat to events leading up to the canal's transfer from the townhouse pan matchett bob mcmillena former chairman of the panama canal mission and author of global passage. good morning, sir. it's great to have you here. >> great to be here particularly everything else going on in the world. >> it's a unique time in the world, essentially a dangerous one. this is history-making of course. you actually have a piece of the canal in your hand. can you tell us about this? >> well, why don't you just take it for a minute. >> okay. i. >> now you can say you actually felt a piece of panama in your hands. >> remarkable. >> what happened is we were -- to get the canal ready for the transfer, whether you like the transfer or not, it was the law, and so we were widening the gal ladder cut. rocks had to be blasted out to widen the cut. most of it was put on barges and taken out into the ocean and dropped where it was maybe two or 3,000 feet depth. i took a few home. i gave a rock like this to a friend. and you know there has been controversy about the canal. in other words, transferring it to