is mcmullen. why we saw mitt romney in 2012 have an enormous victory. john mccain beat barack obama in utah, also a republican state. because of the mormon faith, this was probably one of the best victories throughout the entire country. donald trump should not have this state as competitive at all. >> can you map out a scenario? making a difference for trump? >> without a doubt and should frighten the trump campaign. this is the battleground map. i'm going to give donald trump the battleground states and flip new hampshire and giving him that one electoral vote in maine, get him to 270. this is the winning map for donald trump that kellyanne conway says she's going to play. but look now. if evan mcmullen wins in utah, he loses those electoral votes he's down to 264, this gets thrown to the house of representatives. >> and it goes on and on. thainks very much. evan mcmullen is the wild card in utah. if he takes votes from trump and carries clinton to victory, smog not happened since the '60s. caug

but a third poll shows mcmullen leading trump and clinton by four. anyway, mcmullen responded to pence and twitter after the indiana governor called on utah supporters not to support his independent bid. mcmullen tweeted, a vote for pence a vote for trump, and a vote for trump is a vote for religious bigotry, misogyny, and the expansion of government. a former officer with the central intelligence agency, he joins me now. evan, what do you think of -- if someone votes for you and you carry the electoral votes of utah, what does that do to the race for president come election night itself? what does that do? >> well, if you believe the polls, and i do believe the polls, hillary clinton has a massive lead in most electoral college projections. and so, what happens here in utah is not likely -- >> stays in utah? >> what's that? >> it stays in utah? >> well, for now, it does. but we're building a new conservative movement, because we think that's what's required. you know, mike pence said the voters should come home to donald trump, which i think is ridi

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evan mcmullen. >> mcmullen. why is that? >> mr.rump has managed to engage his mouth before he engages his brain. i considered voting for him and probably would have a couple of months ago. >> what happened? >> well, you read the news? >> unfortunately. it's my job. how much of what's going into your vote has to do with your life as a member of the mormon church? >> members of the lds church stand to be rather orthodox and rather conservative. i think generally they would align with the republican party. although there is quite an appeal for somebody who is not a major political player. i think that was the appeal where mr. trump to begin with. >> you want more? i can give you more pumpkines. how about this one? what is it about mcmullen that you like? oh -- i'm in trouble. >> i like the fact he was intel as i understand it. >> who would have thought a guy from utah was only in the ballot in 11 states could be the guy to take down donald trump. >> well, that kind of remains to be seen. but that would be something, wouldn't it? >> br

. >> i saw evan mcmullen, you say who! he could become the first third party candidate to win a state since george wallace in 1968! he is an unaffiliated conservative neck in neck in utah. tonight he's come to campaign in colorado. >> did you single handedly create a swing state in utah? >> i don't know about that. i think donald trump created a swing state in utah when he abandoned conservative principles or when the party abandoned conservative principles by nominating him. people talk about utah as being a red state or a republican state, but like much of the mountain west, i would rather call it a principled conservative principles, namely that all people are created equal, and that all should have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. and that's why i think you saw donald trump and hillary clinton rejected so strongly by most mountain west states by large margins. >> i couldn't personal leer find a poll in colorado where pole sters specifically asked voters about mcmullen. other polls around 2%. in

evan mcmullen is the wild card in utah. if he carries clinton to victory either way something that has not happened since the '60s. >> the clock is tingeing. >> how are we doing on time? >> ratesing from one event to the next interviews on tv networks. >> let december this. >> reporter: the unlikely third candidate for president of the you state on uout balantah ball. it's grabbing a quarter of republican voters. if he wins in utah he'd be the first independent or third paerd candidate since 196 to win a state's electoral college votes. do you believe that you are a spoiler? >> i don't. i think we've got to tear ourselves away from this idea it has to be the republicans or the democrats. >> we went to a republican event you're not very popular there. >> yes, right. you mean donald trump event. >> yes. >> yes. >> trump, trump, trump! >> he's usurping the voice of the american people. the american voter for this candidate. >> caller: mcmullin is a bad word in this crowd here fors. patience taking on mcmullin directly. >> the

if mcmullen wins utah, nobody gets to 270.w what happens if nobody gets to 270 in a presidential election. the race is decided by the house of representatives. congress gets to pick the president. that is the idea behind the evan mcmullen campaign. he is want issed by conservatives that don't like donald trump and don't want him to be president. they feel they could get it to the house of representatives, the republicans in the house wouldn't want trump or clinton and would want mcmullen. joining us now is the perfect man to talk to from utah. evan mcmullen for president. we took you through the scenario. it is that. i don't think it's an overstatement to say it is a far-fetched scenario, but is that part of what got you into the race? >> well, first of all i want to clarify i'm in jackson hole. i want to give credit where credit is due. it's a beautiful place and i'm happy to be here. we don't believe hillary clinton or donald trump should be period of the united states. we believe the american people deserve a better option.

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>> probably mcmullen. >> if you are free for going for mcmullen as donald trump for the winner in utahry clinton? >> sure. even though i don't want my vote to be driven as an anti-this is one case where i feel like it's important. >> steve, donald trump if he loses this, this is not on the battle ground map. he is assuming he is going to win utah according to the campaign. if he loses this state, getting to 270 electoral votes, i don't know if it's impossible, but it will be very, very difficult. >> the cruel irony if he were to win every other must win state and fall short in of all places, utah. it is the most fascinating individual state story in this campaign. out there in salt lake city, thank you for that. appreciate it. it's not just the race for president that got a lot of drama in the home stretch. the battle for control of the u.s. senate. republicans trying to hold on to that majority they won in 2014 in the face of a potential loss by donald trump and big news on that front. the senate leadership fund, the super pac is designed to support republicans at the last minute. dro

recent polls have evan mcmullen in second place behind donald trump in utah. this is just under one hour. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

the staffer evan mcmullen. a recent utah poll shows a close three-way race. trump in first, but mcmullen only a point behind and clinton with a couple of points off of that. one put mcmullen on top. this is a state that mitt romney won by nearly 50 points. the closeness of this utah race has drawn interest from voters and the candidates. republican vice presidential nominee mike pence will be in utah tomorrow and chris jansing in utah today at the only polling place now open in salt lake city. this is the battle ground nobody and i mean nobody expected the start of this campaign. there must be excitement there. they have a competitive race. >> i have talked to republicans and democrats and they are confounded and excited and nervous. frankly they don't have a clue about what's going to happen. it's so close and so far we are seeing the enthusiasm in the ballot box. if we look in the single voting place, they are probably only going to get a few hundred or over 200 voters here today. by the end of the day, they will probably have something like 100,000 votes i

joining us is independent presidential candidate ed mcmullen, a former cia adviser, and with a look to you are cop trasting yourself to the republican candidate donald trump. >> i am the only conservative candidate this year. i am advocating for limited government and advocating for the fundamental ideals upon which the country is founded and the notion that all men and women are created equal, and we have inalienable right s s to t pursuit of happiness. i am the only candidate certainly standing for those things, and donald trump is not. >> so you are saying that donald trump is not a true republican? >> well, he is a republican and the republican nominee, which is a sad thing for republicans, pu he is not a conservative. i am the only conservative in the race, and i was the chief policy director most recently before launching the campaign, and i have only voted for republicans my entire life. but something has to change when you have the republican party nominating someone who treats women the wau he does and people of different races and religions, and people with disabilities, and

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conservative voters are rallying behind evan mcmullen, a long-time republican running as anepen indnt foriden >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen entuai tmp needs to fi if he wants toe that her historic building on pennsylvania enue, katietur, nbc news,kinston, north carolina. >>> ialleackson in shout-out stood ding donaldtrump'promo. >>congratulaon newt on last night. >> tru talkingbout the fry back andor beten former house speak newt gingrich and foxews anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care aboutc pli policy >> me, ly??? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by sex. but i am fascinated by the >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republicanom are not. >> they're losing their mindey' ngmpaign that's going to close mitt 'stweeng every time you t about it like a knee ander tlal, you push m

for president. >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen campaign. >> momentum trump needs to find if he wants to live if that other historic building on pennsylvania avenue, katie tur, carolina. >>> i'm halle jackson in washington where an unexpected shout-out stood out during donald trump's promo. >> congratulations, newt on last night. >> trump talking about the fiery back and forth between former house speaker newt gingrich and fox news anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by but i am fascinated by the protection of women. >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republican women are not. >> they're losing their minds. they're not acting like a campaign that's going to close strong. >> mitt romney's former top aide tw

evan mcmullen could become the fith george wallace in 1968. ross perot never did it. evan mcmullen is an unaffiliated serve active running neck and neck in polls in utah with donald trump and hillary clinton. he's campaigning tonight in colorado. originally he wanted to pick off enough states to deny trump and clinton an electoral house majority. now he's just out to make a number of states or some state in a region, it sends a message to washington. it sends a message to the republican party there are people who still stand on principle. we will not go along with the republicans if they are going to become a pop list white nationalist or white supremacist party. >> we featured an extended interview today on next and you can clark facebook page. >>> tonight mike pence returns to colorado. the campaign stop comes after visits earlier in the day to reno and salt lake city. pence is scheduled to take the staple at 7 p.m. at the colorado event -- stage at 7 p.m. at the colorado event center. >>> americans are angry. there's a lot of research to back that up. gallop releas

so if you look at evan mcmullen in utah, he's running very close with hillary clinton and donald trumpt he could totally impact the race in utah and gary johnson in colorado. listen, hillary clinton over the last few weeks has had a good run, trump has had a tough run. but if you think back to a month ago and 9/11 when hillary was stumbling into the vehicle, that was a very tough time. three weeks from now, who knows what will be happening? i think the anger at washington, the angier at the two-party system, despite gary johnson's gaffes and what is aleppo, they're going to make this a protest vote. >> let's say that it goes the way you say and mcmullen can take away enough votes to hand it to hillary clinton and that would be considering utah's monolithic lock for republican candidates. gary johnson could conceivably take it away from hillary clinton. how does this all play out, do you think? >> i think that the x factor here is that hillary clinton may not get to 50%, and that's not something that hillary clinton supporters are going to like going into possibly governing if she were

for president. >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen campaign. >> momentum trump needs to find if he wants to live if that other historic building on pennsylvania avenue, katie tur, nbc news, carolina. >>> i'm halle jackson in washington where an unexpected shout-out stood out during donald trump's promo. >> congratulations, newt on last night. >> trump talking about the fiery back and forth between former house speaker newt gingrich and fox news anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, protection of women. >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republican women are not. >> they're losing their minds. they're not acting like a campaign that's going to close strong. >> mitt romney's former top aide tweeting, every time you talk about it li

. >> reporter: policy director for house republicans ex-cia officer and mormon, mcmullen says if elected he will return power to states. >> here we are with hillary clinton and donald trump who personify our leadership crisis in this country. we've got to break out of that. the only way is to use our voices and our votes. >> reporter: voters who don't hillary clinton. >> it's kind of hard to say what you do with your boat. at least something i believe in and it would be better. >> i feel like he's moderate so he can please a lot of people. i feel like he has a really good moral center. >> reporter: colorado is one of the 11 states where mcmullen's name is on the ballot. elsewhere he is asking voters to write in his name. live in lakewood, lauren dispirito, cbs4 news. >>> of voter fraud. how one man managed to cast two votes in three elections. >> you'd be surprised how often people go to vote. >> new video of a man who nearly gets killed trying to wrangle his runaway car. >>> how would smash a one-of-a- kind stained-glass window in a ,, nobody told me to expect it. intercourse that's pai

independent and utah native, evan mcmullen, currently stands at 22%. gary johnson, the libertarian candidate at 14%. clearly, she thinks this is a state in play. both utah and arizona have moved respectively from solid and leaning republican to battleground states. the other two battle great states, ohio, florida. let's take a look at the electoral map. just a snapshot. not a projection. clinton with 307 suspected electoral vote wins. trump with 179. a total of 52 votes there in the electoral college, undetermined, up for grabs. nothing matters until you go to the polls on election day. let's bring back in my panel. let's dive into this map. larry, let me begin with you. this is what you do. you look at these and you give us a reality check. is utah really in play? >> utah is in play only because donald trump and evan mcmullen, the independent, are splitting the two-thirds of the vote that's republican. that's why hillary clinton is in the race there. i would tend to guess that the winner in the end by a few percent would either be trump or mcmullen. m

before mcmullen announced candidacy on the independent ticket, utah was looking competitive. mcmullin appeared, trump was back in the lead, and some people, you know, were voting for mcmullin, around 9% and it wasn't predictive. now it really could be decisive, because what i think maybe since the tape or since his bad debate you see republicans in utah who generally do not like donald trump. largely mormon, and they really are -- critics of his ways. of his style. i think rushing the -- now that hillary's not their only option, mcmullin will serve as a spoiler and putting her back in contention in utah is amazing. >> mitt romney not supportive of trump as we know whatsoever. sort of the mainstream big-named republicans to not be support e supportive. to step back a second. the big question for republicans after this, if donald trump loses, just, will they have the big sort of reckoning as to what their party is and where it's going? and this is something president obama keeps talking about. the fever breaking. he predicted that if he was re-elected four years ago the republi

>> we want to make sure that evan mcmullen, it is running as an independent candidate, does not win utahi think the never-trumpers, who put him in that position, just wanted to choke off the tru utah,ce path to 273 in which has traditionally been a very red state. if you get a candidate that shares a lot in the state with people who are in the state, you can get him up to 32%, maybe even 35%. but it is also a state where governor pence has a friend in senator lee, and where he recently spoke to the education reform senate. he is on his way to colorado and nevada as well. i also take nothing for granted. that is my job. my job is also not to chase every good promising statewide poll and go deploy our best resources there, meeting governor pence and mr. trump. we are trying to do a tighter electoral map than republican candidates have done in the past. i look to the obama 2012 effort as a partial model. even though some of the states that president obama and his team

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that's the man, evan mcmullen, who joins us now. good morning, mr. mcmullen. >> good morning, great to be with you alisyn. >> let's look at the latest polls. because they're fascinating. this is the y-2 analytic utah presidential poll. it shows hillary clinton and donald trump neck and neck at 26%, and you nipping at their heels at 22%. and then gary johnson all the way down at 14%, jill stein at 1%. beyond being a native son of utah, as you are, what do you think is resonating about you with voters? >> well, we're the only conservative ticket in this race, alisyn. and utah before it's a red state, before it's a republican state, it's a principled conservative state. people here care about the constitution. they care about the fundamental truths and principles that have made our country the most powerful and prosperous on earth. namely that all men and women are created equal and that we all have inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and they don't see that or common decency being reflected by the republican nominee, donal

privately, republican operatives think mcmullen is the favorite here.ethis independent picking up those electoral votes. you are ahat republican in utah, it is not just it is a sign of catastrophe. are deployingans in new hampshire, where kelly ayotte is against the democratic governor running for that see. what did the polls say? caller: polls have been net and neck. giving it a slight advantage to kelly ayotte. she has struggled with her position on trump throughout her campaign. she said she was voting for him but not endorsing him. then when the tape leaked of him , the apparent sexual assault, she totally disavowed him. the latest poll i have seen was last week from w m you are showing heard eight points behind. which speaks to the pickle that republicans are in. has many diehard supporters that are more loyal to him than they are to the republican party. when these candidates disavowed trump. host: where does this put hillary clinton as she tries to run up the score and the electoral college and pick up the senate races to put the democrats back i

>> we want to make sure that evan mcmullen, it is running as an independent candidate, does not win utahi think the never-trumpers, who put him in that position, just wanted to choke off the trump-pence path to 273 in utah, which has traditionally been a very red state. if you get a candidate that shares a lot in the state with people who are in the state, you anybody can win with 32% to 35% of the vote. he has a friend in senator lee. he recently drafted the education reform senate. he is on his way to colorado and nevada as well and stopping in utah. but i take nothing for granted. that is my job. my job as well as not to chase every promising statewide poll and go deploy our best resources there, meaning governor pence and mr. trump. we are trying to do a tighter electoral map that republican candidates have done in the past. i looked into the obama 2008 method as a partial model. some of the states that president obama and his team, it looked like they were foregone, but they started to improve. they did not visit those states. i think it was a smart strategy. obviously, it was. "snl

john: utah has gone republican by an average of 36 percentage points. >> evan mcmullen is a republican which makes sense. >> you would be this third candidate to win the state since -- these are both candidates flawed, beyond flawed as individual human beings but also their policies. we have seen a level of exhaustion for the legs they been seen for a long time. >> the reason donald trump's so popular among his basis for the very same reason, republican voters and some democrats who are supporting him are disgusted with the political establishment which hasn't listened at all to their concerns particularly on the economy. >> donald trump's favorability is going down. zimon mid-60s now his negative rating. john: let's show clips from the last debate. the big news was trump saying he would necessarily accept the results of the election. >> i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. john: so is this a big deal? >> i think it is even though the media also has gone a bit hysterical about this. we haven't seen a presidential candidate lead before the election that strongly wit

. >> -- now is a tie between trump and clinton at about 26% and evan mcmullen, the largely unheard of third party, fourth party candidate who is a mormon and familiar to the voters is at 22% as you can see in that poll. utah, wow. >> utah's been an interesting state in all of this because there's been -- mormons have during the primary season, of course, had a lot of trouble supporting trump. there's a lot of concern among mormons. >> he was way up there not long ago. >> he was way up there. it is an interesting state to watch. the other polls, the la times poll which has always been this very strange outlier showing a lead by donald trump is now a tie. so -- and, of course, other polls are showing a lead by hillary clinton, some more substantial than others. >> you know what struck me about the utah poll, if you take evan mcmullen and gary johnson and combine their support, that would lead either of the major party nominees by double digits. you think why if this poll is remotely correct, why might that be? i think the answer is i've been to utah a few times. people from utah tend to

evan mcmullen. so much has happened since the last time you were here two weeks ago.ou are at 22% in utah. when the tapes broke, it was utah based and mormon based politicians with a almost knee-jerk reaction. some in the republican party were offended by that. can you explain the thinking and why they moved in unison so quickly? >> it's about principle. it's the abandonment of principle that has the republican party in such a difficult position now with donald trump, a man who lacks principle, doesn't respect the foundational principles of this country. but people here in utah are more committed to principle than i think is required for support of donald trump. so these are people who see the way donald trump behaves. they tried to give him a chance, many of them. charles: the notion that an 11-year-old tape that somehow shocked everyone, there is no way in the world the guy used the "p" word. how dare somebody in that industry behave that way. isn't that a holier than th, u? >> someone bragging against sexual assault? >> to feign shock when you found out ther. may h

. >> that race is tight but the polls tend to show mcmullen and trump neck-and-neck. clinton is sending more staffers to the state to deploy a resources privately the independent to pick up the votes for of you are a republican in this design of a potential catastrophe. >> another place they deploy more resources where the republican senator in a tough reelection battle what did the poll say in that race? >> said to go neck-and-neck he has struggled with his position say he was voting for him but not endorsing him but then bragging about the sexual assault she totally disavowed him but the latest poll was last week showing her eight points behind that speaks to where the republic, and - - republicans are in he has some die-hard supporters so when the candidates disavowed trump they can also face a penalty kick. >> guess trying to run up the score with the electoral college to pick up the keys and erases to put the democrats back into the majority as they hoped for that possibility to recapture the house of representatives. >> air going on offense into refocused. we ha

it really hasn't been reopened, but as far as the evan mcmullen campaign is concern, you see this asn opportunity, do you see it as an outrage, where do you stand? >> when you look at this as part of the continuing sort of dialogue about a country that's faced with two very challenged unacceptable candidates. you've got donald trump who is obviously, you know, for all the reasons we've already covered an unacceptable candidates for many millions of americans and of a lot of folks who would ordinarily be going away from trump look at hillary clinton as an ethical train wreck. a lot of these things with the e-mail and the new revelations, i think a lot of them are baked in the cake about how people feel about hillary clinton and her team. they will do things that either are or appear to be unethical even if they don't have to, and i think this sort of -- the sort of, you know, discomfort you're seeing at the justice department in part was because the tensions between the professional staff and the political, you know, nokes in that same orbit appear to be, you know, sort of bubbling to

with us now evan mcmullen. good to have you back. >> nice to be with you, neil.say to your two former guests if they misbehaved you were going to deny them dinner. >> i will include breakfast for you. obviously you're well known in your state. you're very popular in the state but it's -- to hear those who love you to death you don't have much beyond utah, what do you say to that? >> well, first of all i would say i wasn't well known in the state. yes, i was born here and i went to school here and i have ties here but i didn't have national name i.d. or state name i.d. here either. we worked very hard. we were are three month presidential campaign. we don't have the support of major political or republican party donors, for example. we are conservative independents. so our resources have been limited but we have been supported by the good people of america. >> how many state ballots are you on? could you update me on that? >> yeah. we are on 11 ballots and registered as a write-in in another number. sit in 43 states. we are very excited about that. majority of ame

recent polls have evan mcmullen in second place behind donald trump in utah.

mcmullen is running because he says he's disappointed with the leading contend ers. >> they are unfit for the position that they seek ti think americans are calling for a change and we hope to offer it. >> he only started his campaign in august. would be the first time s 1968 that a non party candidate took a place in the race. >>> frorm er ohio governor ted strickland. they are predicting a double digit win for portman. obama wants to re peel and replace it because costs and insurance companies pulling out. >> 91% increase. portland and strickland also butt heads on many other topics including gun control, syrian immigrants. >>> many of us think candidates. they need to consider other issues as well. the river side district will schools in the face of failing infrastructure will. the vote will impact more than just river side students. >> tonight the river side high school football team battles it out with mayfield. but there is another fight that these parents face. >> cracked paint, missing floor and ceiling tiles and water damage, just some of the in the river side district. many

he is in salt lake city for a rally where evan mcmullen is also on the ballot. that really gets underway at 5:30 eastern on c-span 2. evening,ogram this clarence thomas will be delivering remarks at the heritage foundation. his remarks take place three days after the 25th anniversary of his swearing-in as an associate justice of the supreme court. you will be able to watch his remarks live on c-span 2 beginning at 6:30 eastern. >> welcome back to our program. say, i hope you are all enjoying yourself, but by the noise level in the room, clearly are enjoying yourself. so that's a good thing. hear from our chamber president, tom donohue, nd our esteemed keynote speaker, it's my distinct honor friend nt an award to a and colleague with whom i've had the pleasure of working for more a decade. i'm not going to go into how and admired wn bruce, because if i did that, it me.d really date bruce is an institution, both in building and around washington. he's worked at the u.s. chamber more than 40 years. for much of that time, bruce has our senior government and politica

joining me is independent presidential candidate evan mcmullen. thanks for coming back.at to talk to you, circumstances and i want to put back up this list of some of the republicans who have come out against nald trump, and they are all -- happen to be fm utah. gary herbert, the governor, jason chaffetz, congressman. senator mike lee very influential. former governor huntsman as well as congresswoman mia love who is also a mormon african-american congresswoman from utah. have any of those people reached out to you, sir, to say that they are willing to support your candidacy now that they are not supporting donald trump? >> well, i'm in touch with most of them, and let me first of all say, joy, it's great to be with you today, but i am in touch with most of them, but, you know, they are calling for donald trump to step down which i think is a fine first step, but really what needs to happen is we need leadership in this country to stand up and not say just what they are against but what they are for, and that -- that's really what we need here, so this is a good first st

evan mcmullen? who?t who was recruited by the never trump folks to run a third party campaign. his strength is very particular to utah. he went to school in utah and he is a mormon and that has a lot to do with what's happening in utah. take a look at this. more than 60% of the state is mormon and donald trump had a serious particular problem with mormon voters. they are very republican and conservative and this was basically donald trump's worst state in the primaries. he lost to ted by more than 50 points. he struggled with form on voters, but this is a huge factor in utah. in evan mcmullen can climb up a few more points, he could win that state. keep in mind he is not competitive anywhere else, but he is absolutely right now in striking distance of utah. if that happens, if he wins the state, you have to go back to 1968, 48 years ago george wallace was a segregationist in the civil rights era won a punch of deep south states. it could happen in 20 scap16. mtp daily starts right now. >> if it's wednesd

john: utah has gone republican by an average of 36 percentage points. >> evan mcmullen is a republican which makes sense. >> you would be this third candidate to win the state since -- these are both candidates flawed, beyond flawed as individual human beings but also their policies. we have seen a level of exhaustion for the legs they been seen for a long time. >> the reason donald trump's so popular among his basis for the very same reason, republican voters and some democrats who are supporting him are disgusted with the political establishment which hasn't listened at all to their concerns particularly on the economy. >> donald trump's favorability is going down. zimon mid-60s now his negative rating. john: let's show clips from the last debate. the big news was trump saying he would necessarily accept the results of the election. >> i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. john: so is this a big deal? >> i think it is even though the media also has gone a bit hysterical about this. we haven't seen a presidential candidate lead before the election that strongly wit