we also asked evan mcmullin, a former c.i.a. intelligence operative for more than a decade, to weigh in. and he also ran for the presidency as an independent candidate. evan mcmullin: there are so many things that russia has done to influence our election this time around. they have got a cable network in the united states, owned and funded by the kremlin in moscow, that promotes donald trump, has promoted donald trump for the past year while undermining americans' faith in their democratic institutions. but soledad, let me tell you, this is nothing new. this is exactly what the russians do in western europe. they want to undermine democracy because they know that democracies, democratic governments in europe and here in the united states, are united together against russian expansion. because vladimir putin would like to have them back. and we've seen what he has done in ukraine over the past couple of years. it is part of a playbook russia has implemented in europe and is now implementing in the u.s. announcer: coming up. >> i

operative, evan mcmullin is joining us. then another one! d. jd. j. khaled is here, every!or key in the house! ( cheers and applause ) let's get straight into it. i don't know about you, but for me, every day since donald trump won has been an emotional rollercoaster. every day it ranges from, ah to ahhh! and what makes it worse than a rollercoaster is the fact this ride is going to be four years long, and the scarriest thing is we're still just waiting in the line! the ride hasn't etch started yet! and today was definitely ahhh! >> scott pruitt, donald trump's pick for environmental protection agency administrator is a staunch climate change defire. >> donald trump expected to pick fast food c.e.o. andy poster, outspoken against regulation. >> he is against raising the federal minimum wage over $9 an hour. >> trevor: ahhh! ahhh! ahhh! ( laughter ) you know, sometimes i think trump is trolling us, people! america has a troll. it's the ultimate troll. you realize almost every single person he's picked for his cabinet wants to destroy the thing they have been put in charge of

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. >>> evan mcmullin, do you remember? former cia, counter terrorism officer, he's with us now, good to see you, your home state of utah votes at this hour. you came close to winning utah. is this ga-- is it good or is i under mining the will of the people? >> well, great to be with you. it is adel kate balance. the electoral college was established for a purpose and that purpose was in part of a safety valve to prevent someone that's a creature of a foreign power or unfit from taking presidency. it plays an important role. i don't expect anything to change today of what the expected outcome is. there maybe one or more who defact and vote on the republican side. i don't see that -- the electoral college has a progr s prerogative to consider which way it goes. every elector has its own opportunity to make his or her own choice. there is some state laws that manage that a little bit. but, it plays an important role but i just don't think it is going to change the outcome today. i think what we need to focus on for those of u

. >>> donald trump is so mad at evan mcmullin that he refuses to say his name. >> remember when they donald trump is going to lose to some guy i never even heard of. who is that guy? he is going to lose to this guy. but the people of utah were amazing, and we trounced them. and by the way, hillary came in second, and that guy came in third. i was still trying to figure out. i'm still trying to figure out, what was he going to prove. i wondered, what the hell was he trying to prove. i guess he wanted us to lose the supreme court. that's about the only thing he was going to get. >> that guy who donald trump is referring to was on the ballot utah and ten or states, he won 21% of the vote in his home state of utah and he responded by saying winning the election makes you president-elect but it does not make you a leader worth following. you won political legitimacy, but nothing can legitimatize your bigotry, thor tear inism and corruption. evan, when you referred to donald trump's legitimacy and you refer to his corruption. as you see it on the landscape of trump activities today, how wo

do have them for the electoral college, their names are strom they are man and george wallace and mcmullin, we have them more for the electoral college than states, because the electoral college fractures the -- even if you want win nationally you can be a spoiler and throw things into the house of representatives and change the whole outcome and be the king maker, we have a bigger problem with regional candidates and spoilers, whether their names are mcmullin, or john anderson than we have for governors. on slavery, one point even though the question wasn't addressed to me, the role that slavery played is not merely at the founding in philadelphia, but in particular with the amendment of the system after two elections in which a southerner jefferson ran against a northern adams, and the northerner won both times. the 12th amendment was obviously a slavery skew, without the extra votes created by slavery, john adams wins that second election, 13 extra electoral votes. my friend jack is shaking his head, i can show you that that is what every adams supporter says, including people in this h

watching these rallies on the thank you tour and he won't say his name, but he loves talking about mcmullin. it is a comedian who is worried about a comedian. he is the headliner. he calls it the thank you tour. >> i don't know. i can't even wrap my mind around that one. ben, obviously he likes it. i mean, i don't -- whether it works or not, if it makes him happy, why can't we just let him do this? >> we just want our president to be happy at all times. he treats evan mcmullen the same way the people of springfield treated freddy kruger. don't say his name. i agree that it was a ridiculous bill crystal ruse. if you look at the background it is orwell meets rockwell. it is a bizarre portrait of america around him. and if you notice the heavy set kid was behind the kid who on every other day was giving him a swirlie. he has all kinds of lights behind him. >> the prediction will be huge. he will be a meme. >> we all noticed him. i am suspicious. it does look like michael moore. michael, you won't guess who is president in 2016. we need to go to the future! the other looks like a slightly bit o

a new poll shows that an independent candidate named evan mcmullin is actually in a a three-way tie withhillary clinton in the state of utah. making the only time you'll ever hear "utah" and "three-way" in the same sentence. [ cheers and applause ] it's just very interesting. ♪ i saw that's the united nations just announced that they're naming wonder woman as a new honorary ambassador for empowering women and girls. [ scattered cheers ] and michelle obama said, "yeah, go with the cartoon." yeah, that's -- [ applause ] perfect. that's -- no one -- no real women out there to -- [ light laughter ] finally, things aren't getting any better for samsung. i saw that now they're actually sending customers safety gloves to help them return the exploding phones. and they're like, hold up. turns out the gloves are exploding too. [ laughter and applause ] i'm sorry, how do we make an exploding -- we have a great show tonight. give it up for the roots! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ♪ boogie nights ain't no doubt we are here to party ♪ ♪ ♪ dance with the boogie get down dance wit

. >> evan mcmullin. much more ahead on this and other stuff. knew >>> today we also got big news from the man who will be running the security apparatus. retired general michael flynn generosity is its own form of power. you can handle being a mom for half an hour. i'm in all the way. is that understood? i don't know what she's up to, but it's not good. can't the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don't start a war you know you're going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. who donald trump has named as his national security adviser. that's not a position that requires senate confirmation unless trump rescinds the offer flynn will be his national security whisperer in the white house. today's news puts what flynn said on the campai trail and in the republican national convention in a different light. when he called on

. >> evan mcmullin. much more ahead on this and other stuff. knew all right, be cool. you got the amazing new iphone 7 on the house by switching to at&t... what??.... aand you got unlimited data because you have directv?? (laughs to self in disbelief) okay, just a few more steps... door! it's cool! get the iphone 7 on us and unlimited data when you switch to at&t and have directv. >>> today we also got big news from the man who will be running the security apparatus. retired general michael flynn who donald trump has named as his national security adviser. that's not a position that requires senate confirmation unless trump rescinds the offer flynn will be his national security whisperer in the white house. today's news puts what flynn said on the campaign trail and in the republican national convention in a different light. when he called on hillary clinton to drop out of the race because she, quote, put our nation's security at extremely high risk. >> lock her up. lock her up. cro [ crowd chanting "lock her up." ] >> you guys are good. damn right. exactly right. ther

this is what evan mcmullin tried to do that independent candidate for governor >> glad you didn't callo the feeling and the sentiment in this country. no one can get it together. i mean, eventually, the pulse of the people, the feeling i'm getting, in january, on inauguration day, i think generally speaking people are over it. >> this is one of the reasons people get turned off on politics and because, you know, they're so quick to, you know, hang themselvess on the founding fathers and the constitution. all of that great stuff we learned about in school. until it doesn't suit them. until they don't like the outcome of what the electoral college is. all of a sudden, we need to toss >> the electoral college >> electoral college, toss 240 years of american history out the window because we don't like the way the election turned out. that's too bad. that's the way it works. that's the way the system was designed. like it or not >> before we talk about another cabinet pick for donald trump, do you think anything will happen tomorrow? do you think donald trump will be get the votes that he

evan mcmullin has been tweeting about that epically. >> and this is something i saw a lot when i went to trump rallies during the campaign when you were ask people why are you supporting trump and what do you think even if his policies are antithetical to potentially your own self-interests and people like women, for example, would say, oh, i don't believe that he groped women or i think it's all just part of the showers, part of the reality tv show and that is part of the problem here is that it's -- we've so intermixed reality tv with reality that people don't see the difference anymore and they just think it's part of entertainment. they don't see that there's actual policy implications here that actually really dangerous policy implications here that could have huge effects not only for our country and foreign relations and how they live their lives hand until you see the effects drip down and people begin to feel them they are really not going to care. >> we have evidence of that because you have donald trump literally appointing somebody heading the labor department that feels l