robert mcnamara the same. then general earl wheeler. in my estimation he is a major part of the problem. essentially a staff officer. low command experience and none in combat and he has been to the north. westmoreland's idea that fire power is a way to conduct this work so he was no help. i speculate -- i will go farther than that. i assert that these main people in the chain of command who had the authority to replace westmoreland or direct him do something different than he was doing lacked the knowledge and confidence to do that. but there were others who were working hard to try to achieve the objective i believe should have been and one of the most important i have returned to his general johnson. in the same four years westmoreland commanded in vietnam general johnson was the army chief of staff and early on he conducted a study, pacification and long term development of vietnam's. the study said flat out what general westmoreland is doing is not working and cannot work and the reason is it is ignoring the situation in the villag

and not vote, he lays it on president johnson, secretary mcnamara. and he also said in the crux of my question, he also kept saying every time he saw the joint chiefs of the largely ignored, but every time he saw him, he said that. now, with that with westmoreland synthesis, what did that have to do with leading to that? because other? or is it something else? >> that's a very fine question. i'll start by saying that enormous maturation and i think that's a wonderfully fine book. i'm glad to see when i go into bookstores and even though it's been out for many years to still see it on the shelves, so it has a long life. here again i've talked about the kinds of things you ask about and basically his book ends before my account begins. in particular, we discussed his take on general johnson referred to several times. i wrote one called honorable warrior and i concluded he was one of the finest officers we ever had in one of the most honest. for some of the criticisms that h.r. makes a 10 i think are colored by the fact that when potvin makes his appear

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he believed that the mcnamaras were innocent.h of his defense of them was based on believing that this was a false charge. >> the second sentencing was under the espionage act. he made a speech at his sentencing. one of his quotes are among his most famous. it is -- he went to prison and in the 1920 campaign -- which he decided to take part in. can you tell me how he campaigned for president from his prison cell in atlanta? how did he do that? >> he was not allowed. it was an awkward situation for the federal government because he was a seditionist. he was also a legitimate candidate from a legitimate party. they allowed him to give a little speech, the socialists did. then the government allowed them only to campaign by submitting eight 500-word letters to the press over the course of the campaign. he was spending the campaign relying on his party to go out and spread the word. > > you have a campaign buttons. >>yes, it is. >> it is very small, what does it say? >> it says, "convict for president." it is one of the most famous c

i remember him telling me that and i remember hearing how and some of the pentagon was mad at mcnamara. can think of what it was like, like an election night waiting, but much worse. one ship was coming. it didn't have anything, but it went on it anyway. all these ships cruising forward. i remember hearing that the joseph kennedy was there saying to jack, should you send me something? in no, and then finally came back and was aborted. can't remember. you know, finally when it was over. thanks me. and then it did had just gone on maybe two more days everybody would have cracked. night and day. shepherding this situation. unremembered. and i mean, everything. and then wrote a letter to mcnamara afterwards was i shut to jack. ♪ >> out of the president feel about the restoration of the white house? >> oh, well, you know, he was interested in it. he would always get so interested. you know, i cared about it, but he was nervous about it. he wanted to be sure it was done the right way. he sent carper fantasy me.eú he was nervous because he tried to persuade me not to do it, which jack never h

and we remember hearing how the independent gun does not have mcnamara and after winter.on that thing. remember just waiting the blockade from what it was like an election, but much worse, you know, one ship was coming underwriter would turn back, they didn't have anything oil on it and all the ships cruising forward, sharing the joseph kennedy was there and sainted jackie, just remembering and finally turned back and was ordered, wasn't it? >> i can't remember the day finally when it was over insaneú to me -- when the same to meeú that it it it just dawned on maybe two more days, everybody would have cracked. you would've been awake night and day. shepard in a situation. you know, every one.eú and they went to mcnamara afterwards, which i showed to jack and everyone had worked. >> our president feel about the restoration of the white house? >> he was interested in it. he'd always get so interested in anything -- i cared about him and he was nervous about it. you wanted to be sure was done the right way, so he sent clark clifford to see me. clark clifford was really nervo

. >> reporter: former police chief, joseph mcnamara has written about the occupy movement.says this is the american autumn. >> the american way is that we do that through voting for politicians and we do it peacefully, they're trying something else. they're trying to use mob force to create policy changes. >> reporter: if go live to us you can see there is another tent moved, they're taking them across the street on the other side of city hall, because they say that's public property there, and they won't be evicted. we'll see what happens. but it's a cat and mouse game. they move the tents, they'll be back again tomorrow. live in san jose, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> and stay with us ktvu for continuing coverage. we will bring you the latest on the occupy movements in the bay area and beyond as they develop. >>> empty claims on empty bottles. why the state attorney general says the makers of these clear bottles are being less than transparent. >>> clear skies and dropping temperatures across most of the bay area. coming up, the neighborhoods already in the 40s, and when rain

. >> reporter: former police chief, joseph mcnamara has written about the occupy movement.says this is the american autumn. >> the american way is that we do that through voting for politicians and we do it peacefully, they're trying something else. they're trying to use mob force to create policy changes. >> reporter: if go live to us you can see there is another tent moved, they're taking them across the street on the other side of city hall, because they say that's public property there, and they won't be evicted. we'll see what happens. but it's a cat and mouse game. they move the tents, they'll be back again tomorrow. live in san jose, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> and stay with us ktvu for continuing coverage. we will bring you the latest on the occupy movements in the bay area and beyond as they develop. >>> empty claims on empty bottles. why the state attorney general says the makers of these clear bottles are being less than transparent. >>> clear skies and dropping temperatures across most of the bay area. coming up, the neighborhoods already in the 40s, and when rain

i really write something to say here and then i wrote a letter to mcnamara afterwards which is sure to. everyone had worked to the peak of human endurance. ♪ eú ♪ >> how does the president feel about the restoration? >> the restoration? >> of the white house? >> oh, well he you know, he was interested in a. he would always get so interested in anything. he was nervous about it. i mean, he wanted to be sure it was done the right way so he sent clark clifford to see me. i think clark clifford was really there because he tried to persuade me not to do it, which jack never. he said you just can't touch the white house. he said, it's so strange. america feels strains about it. if you try to make any changes it would be just like that. and i said it won't be like the truman balcony come and i told him all about how i would do upon and all the people i hoped we would get. it's how you would set this committee up and certain things come and clark is very good about setting up a guidebook. so once jack thought was going along with good counsel, i think him he was so excited about it. >> was the

and mcnamara was found chained to a boiler in the basement. >> that was real dirty of you.ear-old herbert noles. >> did she hit you, do? >> no. mr. greg hit me. >> gregory thomas is one of the two men arrested in connection with the case. all of the victims say they were manipulated by westin who took their social security cards and collected their checks. >> reporter: did you guys willingly give her your information? >> no. she asked for it. >> she took it. >> reporter: they all traveled with westin from texas to florida and finally philadelphia where they were locked behind a still door inside this dark, poorly ventilated dungeon like subbasement. they may have been here since early october. >> for someone to do that to another human being, it's very, very disturbing. >> reporter: meanwhile, linda westin is no straenger to the law. in the 1980s, she served time in prison for killing her sister's boyfriend. police tell us she locked him in the closet and starved him to death. meanwhile, police tell us when they arrested westin, they found 50 different i.d.s belonging to 50

my joke is it's after if the democrats responded by nominated robert mcnamara.ing to offer them a much better president than if the tea party had coalesced. >> seems to me, james, that the democrats, the ob arkobama camp are working urpd the assumption they will face romney in 2012. >> of course they are. i guess to be fair is perry could be credible, but hasn't shown any sort of sense that he can either debate or give a speech or do anything other than raise money. i think he's found wanting. again, these reporters, they're watching this. that's why you go from bachmann to perry. they're watching this closely and just not a credible alternative to mitt romney and it's, that's what it is. and maybe romney's lucky or whatever, but this is the state of play over there and i think the correct asupgs is willing to operate on. >> earlier in the week, romney and chris christie, the republican governor of new jersey, very popular among republicans. is this potentially the ticket? >> usual talk is that it will be mark rubio -- said perhaps for having popular with the co

and to the extent that we preoccupy ourselves with this totally mythological mcnamara -- of the palestinians, we will be stultified and we will find ourselves first lien on the secondary and tertiary goals in the region, while actually rendering vulnerable are crucial ally and exemplar and source of strength in the middle east. which is of course israel. thank you. [applause] >> anything george is going to take some questions. >> sure, whatever. >> who would like to begin quite ratepayer. >> george, where do you think the belief in the slowest narrative comes from? >> i think it is partly just ignorance of the importance of economics and the importance of actual scientific and technological pants. and preoccupation with political considerations, with ideals of democracy that are obviously important. but without a context of economic freedom and progress become almost meaningless. i mean, in the context of a sordid jihads even if it, the actual foolery sheen of human life becomes trivial. and note that just aren't interested. as recently, the palestinian council here told the jewish daily, we