and the secretary mcnamara and the president were also doing their job, saying hold on.hat are the steps? and they're trying to understand the 20 steps that are involved in the boarding of a soviet vessel. and they were correct to, because any errant shot might have led to the firing of a nuclear weapon back from the soviet vessel towards the united states. and we now know much more than we did at the time, and many of the submarines were carrying nuclear weapons, the torpedoes. there were a large number of tactical nuclear weapons already available to units of soviet army personnel in cuba already. so they were heavily armed already. the political leadership was correct to exercise great caution. >> here is the assistant secretary of defense, roswell kilpatrick, talking to president kennedy. >> as i understood there's some report that russian ships were not going to stop. we're going to have to sink them in order to stop them. or we're going to have to fire on them. i was wondering on the instructions of how that's to be done, where they're to be shot at to cause the mi

mcnamara had a great reputation as a reading tutor. she tutored the wealthier children in town and she tutored children at who were from very poor economic backgrounds. she had found one day in her tutoring how much it meant to the three boys she was tutoring of a local public school to be given a book. she had brought books that her children had years before and had been left at home, of course, and she let each of them take a book home. one of the mothers came to the school the next day to return the stolen book. they said, no, we want the child to have the book. that started a tradition of present a book to a child of i writing in the child's name if it. we do not pretended the teacher of reading. riff is here to help children particularly those most at risk of not learning to read well and on time. that usually means poor children. we are here to help them see the joy of reading first by putting that book in their hands that they have chosen, and write the name in it, and then over recent years, we have really tried to going stress

robert mcnamara is one of the most vocal about this. and he says we have to get this out, even if they are not a military threat in a clinical sense. the american public, we just can't live with the american public if we let this stay. so kennedy is eventually persuaded. so we have to get rid of it. then you look at some of the other weapons systems. there was a lot of other military equipment in cuba. and the troops were the real issue here. the americans thought there was something about seven or 8000 troops. about 17,000 troops. there were about 43,000. on the 23rd of october, the day after kennedy speech to the nation, they started sending over low-level surveillance planes. and they discovered that there were combat troops that were organized around the island. they had nuclear capable rockets and what they're trying to decide in the weeks after this is do we want to insist on giving these other weapons and troops out and we need to get him to pull this out? the decision is actually quite different and it drags on. it's a low prior

dennis mcnamara was in with his girlfriend when he rode it.gh and 100% dangerous. >> my name is gary mcnamara and i just surf for a living. >> i grew up surfing. my father's a surfer. gary is known for being crazy and maybe pushing the limits more than other people might, but there's something about him that i never worry about him when he's in the water ever. >> i am very comfortable in the ocean. i feel that i belong out there. i'm so fortunately blessed that i get to travel the world and surf. we were at a little fishing village in portugal. >> there's a cliff that kind of sticks out into the ocean. so whenever garrett is out surfing, i'm on the rocks on the cliff, you could say. so i could see when the sets are coming. >> we had jet skis pull into the giant waves. we start going out. >> i knew that the decision of which wave to go on was going to be pretty imperative. >> and he started to turn on the first wave. and i'm number two, number two. so we go over the first wave. and there's this mountain coming at us. >> i could tell from the cl

robert mcnamara who was not overtly political, but a registered republican.secretary of the treasury, republican. so we actually may show about lot of his advisers were actually very centrist. he was not getting left-leaning partisan people around him when he was making these very important decisions. >> host: we have just a couple minutes left. one last question about the tapes. you dedicated many years of your life to the university of virginia miller center affairs. talked both about the value of these tapes, but also about the potential pitfalls because you rely heavily and some have said because the tapes are so wonderful that we can focus too much on them and there might be a danger to that. >> host: as you point out come at the university of virginia we've been working on these tapes of all six persons in the white house since about 1998 when the program is formed. read the whole team of people, colleagues, students, scholars working on this. so we're trying to work through this remarkable resource. but they do have to be used with care and i try to be

mcnamara had a great reputation as a reading tutor. she tutored the wealthier children in town, and she tutored children at very, from very poor economic backgrounds. she had found one day in her tutoring how much it meant to the three boys she was tutoring at a local public school to be given a book. she had brought books that her children had had years before and had been left at home, of course. and she let each of them take a book home. well, one of the mothers came to the school the next day to return the stolen book, and they said, no, we want the child to have the book, and that started a tradition of rif when they present a book to a child of writing the child's name in it or helping the child write the name. rif does not pretend to be the teacher of reading. rif is here to help children, particularly those most at risk of not learning to read well and on time. that usually means poor children. we are here to help them see the joy of reading first by putting that book in their hands that they have chosen. and write the name in

mcnamara had a reputation to tutor the wealthy people and lead children from poor economic backgrounds. she found one day how much it meant to be given a book she bought from what her children had five years before and one of the mothers came to the school to return the stolen boat recently when the child touse have the book so that stars the tradition to find a child's name or have them help the name. but also the teacher of reading. and but not when ta'en too need well and to put the book and the hand and we have tried to begin to stress perennial involvement we ask of undergone a transition over the last year over the last 34 years we have of large federal but grant if that was not funded in the fy 12 by jeht. read them do the phoenix we have always done private fund-raising and we are stepping back. >> host: the two organizations coming due see yourself as competitors, but collaborators? we are asked all the time about competitors. but they purchase their books from the marketplace. we have looked for all kinds of ways to elaborate. when the federal grant went away three put togeth

. >> reporter: joseph mcnamara says hiring a new chief right now is not an easy task. >> san jose is the least staffed large police department in the country. you have a demoralized police force, and the immediate future looks pretty bad fiscally. >> reporter: the president of the san jose police officers association said there are two names that have frequently surfaced, press no police chief, and sacramento chief. and yet another potential candidate is being pushed by council member, and that is former san jose police captain gary kirby. i spoke with a spokesperson from the sacramento police chief, and he is open to all options at this point. >>> and it's not just a new san jose police chief who needs to be hired in the area, the chm also needs a lot of -- chp also needs a lot of officers. more on that story at 6:00. >>> a decision hasn't been made on whether to charge a 15-year- old teen as an adult. investigators say he and 26- year-old jonathan will banks held up four south bay businesses before instituting a man outside a 7-eleven in an apparent carjacking attempt, and then ope

but he goes in there and he sees mcnamara and dean on the ground, looking at a map of vietnam talk about the war. larry said, well, if they can do it, i can do it, too. [laughter] and there is in that image a certain crudity. but lbj just did not have any downtime. it was not meant to be demeaning, but he just never shut it off. [laughter] >> the story to which i was referring, talk about crossing the aisle. richard nixon had been called into a conference in lbj's bedroom. lbj was in bed in his pajamas. halfway through the conference, ladybird comes walking and in her dressing gown, greets nixon and they continue the conference from there. >> it had been particularly uncomfortable for tricky dick. >> and then there are the many late-night phone calls from lbj to various people of his staffers my favorite being the one where he calls in and says, are you asleep? >> yes, there is a congressman who said, you know, he would call people at all hours. >> 3330 in the morning. these lawmakers went out and there was one lawmaker called at 230 in the morning and he said, i'm sorry, did i wake you?

five republicans lost who are moderates -- scott brown, tommy thompson, rick berg and tommy mcnamara. pick a direction. you want to be moderate and play around with this, you are not going to hold up. you want to go fiscally conservative, go tea party, and you might win the senate back. >> if i could answer a basic question without appalling answerrings. >> sean: but there is a big gender gap here. women in larger numbers voted for obam a. men in larger numbers voted for romney. >> so did minorities, a lot of latinos and african-americans and -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: to eric's point, 3 million fewer republicans voted this year than in 2008. >> real quick, the numbers, right now, as of this -- literally a couple of hours ago, 2,29800 is what obam beat romney by. almost 3 million fewer republicans voted. >> he didn't get that turnout. >> that electoral college, that's becoming an issue. there are a lot of constitutionalists who are going to yell at me for saying this. >> sean: no, no, no. you don't go with the popular vote. you don't. >> bad idea. >> romney lost by 24% and he

mcnamara had a great reputation as a reading tutor.she tutor the wealthier children in town and also children from poor economic backgrounds. she had found come up one day, how much it meant in the life of public school, she had bought books that her children had used before. well, one of the mothers wanted to return the stolen book. and i said no, we want the child have to have the book, and that started the tradition of when we present a book to a child, helping the child. she appeared to help children, those who do not learn to read well on time, it usually means we are here to help them spread the joy of reading. first by putting a book in their hands that they have chosen. over recent years, we have really tried again to stress even more the parental environment that needs to happen with that book if it's going to come alive. we have undergone a transition in the last year. the 46 years for the last long while, we have had books that were not funded in the fiscal year 13 budget. we probably should have done more of them forming co

what extend was he concerned that robert mcnamara said on the morning of october 15th it's not a -- it's a domestic political problem. what extend is domestic politics contributing to jfk's decision making during and after the crisis. >> guest: the way i try to handle it in the book is the way you frame it. did it influence his policy? i would say absolutely, but i would form a distinction here about partisan political considerations in the sense that this is trying to help, you know, his re-election. trying to help democrats, trying to attack republicans. you do not get to be president without thinking political consideration in everything do you. not just at making a decision. this is part of who you are once you goat president. you have to think on behalf of how it's going to be perceived in the public. he is constantly think abouting think abouting that in the early days and after. how is it going to play out in the public? but the distinction there, i would call it political awareness, and that is cob -- constant part of who he is but in everything he does whether vietnam policy, ci

mcnamara had a great reputation as a reading tutor.she tutored the wealthier children in town and children who were from poor economic background. she had found one day in the tutoring how much it meant to the three boys she was tutoring at the local public school. to be given a book. she brought her books that her children had. she let them take a book home. one of the mothers came to school the with next day to return the stolen book. we said no, we want the child to have a book. it started the tradition present a book to a child writing the child write the name in it. -- does not pretended to be the teacher of reading. she's here to help children -- read well and that usually means poor children, we are here to help them see the joy of reading. first by putting that book in their hands, that they have chosen and write the name in it. and then over recent years we have tried to begin to stress even more the parental involvement that needs to happen. we have undergone a transition in the last year for 46 years for the last 34 years we