mcnamara gets the report. the ship commander says, do not think so. mcnamara goes ballistic.he is a pretty powerful, forceful follow, robert mcnamara. among other things, he calls up the admiral in charge of pacific command and says, what is this? you do not understand that we are already in motion. we have had a meeting. the president has signed off. we are ready to fly those b-52's. those commies had better watch out. what is these messages -- what are these messages saying there is no attack? right at that moment a composite intercept roles in. it is a summary of those north vietnamese communications between one of -- 1 to 5 august. which indicates that they did plan a preplanned attack. then they gist the communications. just summarize without giving the source of where they picked it up. they summarized. this top-secret code word document is what the national security agency provided top policymakers like mcnamara to continue to defend the position that the second attack did take place. it was aggressive. and they basically had left out of the chronology all of the messa

mcnamara and rush say send them on. what do you think?it's better than being like we just got in this thing and another way out. >> you couldn't have been here for the worse mess. >> be lucky but they will say i created it. the trouble is, the great trouble i'm under, a man can fight if he can see daylight down the road somewhere but there is no daylight in vietnam. there is not a bit. mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals. 9 grams of protein... with 30% less sugars than before. ensure, your #1 dr. recommended brand now introduces ensure active. muscle health. clear protein drink and high protein. targeted nutrition to feed your active life. ensure. take life in. ♪ fill their bowl with the meaty tastes they're looking for, with friskies grillers. tender meaty pieces and crunchy bites. in delicious chicken, beef, turkey, and garden veggie flavors. friskies grillers. ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ sweet, sweet st. thomas nice ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ st

and once mcnamara said the fog of war, when things are very heat, when people are coming at you with more rockets or with more fire and more fire, obviously you do what you can to defend yourself. sand every one of the israelis did not get into gaza because of hate, did not get into gaza because one of the soldiers wanted to revenge. they came into gaza because they wanted and we wanted to give a normal creative life to the citizens. >> i'm not so sure if general mcnamara is who i would be quoting at a time like this. but in any case, i want to ask about your specific background, your approach. you're a businessman in addition to being a politician. you say that you want a new approach to gaza. what are you talking about? what do you want to do? what do you want to provide for the people of gaza? >> i think the negotiations that are going on right now, the fact that israel has allies in jordan, in egypt, in the palestinian authority is something that we want to bring to the table, to the process. and i can remember in the west bank when there were suicide bombers when it was very dif

. >> tom mcnamara with the late fest washington. >> a number of authorities have been dropping food and water to refu refugees isolated by the violence. it is what president obama called a potential genocide. and supporters of the prime minister rally in baghdad in nouri al-maliki's bid for a third term in government. now jane arraf in northern iraq, what are the points that barack obama made in his news conference many thames over is that the news government that is formed needs to be inclusive. how likely is that? >> reporter: well, it depends on what you mean by inclusive, really. this is a very tough call and there are a lot of moving parts to this. one is u.s. airstrikes. the other is a prime minister who won't step down the demonstrations that we're seeing in baghdad. i would say the last time that there was spontaneous demonstration in iraq, demonstrations like that are politically planned or motivated. so it was an indication as president's repeated reference to an inclusive government that prime minister maliki is trying to hang on and it seems that the united states as well as

robert mcnamara wrote a book before he died saying how wrong he was. and it is amazing to me 50 years after the voting rights act and civil rights act how courageous lyndon johnson was. he doesn't get the credit for the good he did do. clearly he was wrong on the vietnam question, and martin king was right. johnson doesn't have a holiday, king does. johnson doesn't have a monument, king does. so we see who was right 50 years later, but king paid a serious price for that, and the last year of his life he's depressed a lot more, he's drinking a little heavier, he's smoking a little bit heavier. he always tried to break smoking, but he couldn't stop the habit, kind of like barack obama fighting to not smoke. but his life in that last year was just so, visceral impact. when he died, the autopsy on his body -- he's assassinated at 39, the autopsy revealed the inner parts of a 60-some--year-old man. the stress and the pressure on him, peter, on the outside is he's 39, but on the inside he's in his 60s. so he wasn't going to live forever anyway. but that kind

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joan mcnamara, senior project manager, mayor's office of housing and community development. i just ran 30 blocks. [laughter] >> the resolution before you is a resolution regarding qualified mortgage rates new bonds for 1500 mission street. a residential housing development sponsored by related california. although the resolution authorizes the director of mocd to submit an application for the california debt limit allocation committee for permission to issue -- >> ma'am, why don't we give you one second to catch your breath. thanks for running over here. we don't want to do harm on a budget item, number 25. [laughter] >> i think i'm fine. >> at your discretion here. >> although the resolution authorizes the director of mocd to submit an application to the california debt allocation committee to issue such bonds, the primary intent of securing the bond's approval now is to declare the intent of the city and county of san francisco to reimburse certain costs from proceeds of the future bond indebtedness. once the project has been fully approved by the city, we will need to ret

conversations, and listen to president johnson's phone calls as he is talking with the ,ecretary of defense, mcnamara and begin to understand two huge realities that were not known to the public at the time. one, that the north vietnamese attacks on the sd

. >> cara mcnamara is a mother of three and co-host of "mom's movie minute" owned by nbc universal.er of two and lifestyle editor at "family circle" magazine. >> you have three kids, ceo of divamoms.com. >> i love it. high-powered moms. >> "guardians of the galaxy" will be the number one show this weekend. we've seen sold-out shows on fandango. >> it's pg-13 so how old should the kids be? >> i would go 11 and up. we can talk about that. the reason people like this, it's a comedy. that doesn't happen. >> i haven't heard a word about it. now it's the big movie. >> i love chris. >> i loved it. >> didn't know it would be a movie i would love and my husband would want to take my kids. but i still -- my 10-year-old, we had the best time. >> 10-year-old? was it okay? >> here's the thing about it. there's more profanity in this than most disney or marvel movies so you need to know that. >> get your earmuffs ready. >> i thought is

general mcnamara, the general back in the states then of the army, came over and he was there. he came up to the aid station slightly wounded. i don't know what he did to his finger nail. but we patched him up and he got a purple heart for it. so when he was there, he had general allen, are you going to be able to take troena. and general allen said i'm going to bring the 16th infantry up. he said they have what it takes. they'll take that town. so he did. we had moved our aid stations up ahead of the 16th to take care of the troops fighting there at the time. so he moved the 16th out and they went into attack. and they had to get in from miles around because the adrenaline really had sealed off in the front. so he directed the commanding officer, 100 mules. and they brought the mules in. took us a while to get them up there because the guy that had the mules wouldn't let them have it until they got paid. so we had to get cash to pay the guy and we got the mules and packed in the machine gun, the ammunition, all that in around the ways, and attacked the germans and it was reall

mcnamara ♪ >> people in the counterculture started making these shows and they don't want to play byct the smothers brothers of all people to be the ones raising this much of a fuss? >> a good script. >> i held my breath every time they did the show. i knew the network people were befelling their trousers with fear. >> nothing funny in this. yeah, boys, we're through censoring your show. >> they said that the social subjects we touched on were not appropriate for the 9:00 family viewing hour. they came up with any excuse to make it difficult. >> and i came up with any excuse to push it. >> yeah. ♪ cbs would like to give us notice ♪ ♪ and some of you don't like the things we say but we're still here ♪ ♪ oh, yeah we're still here >> they were going to speak truth to power. and they were not compromising. >> you have something important? >> something very important to say on american television. >> a lot of times we don't have the opportunity to say anything important because on american television, every time you try to say something important -- >> well, whether you can say it or not,

at -- it was seven years ago i went over to do what turned out to be the last interview with bob mcnamaraecretary of defense for kennedy and johnson. vi an apartment in the watergate kept pressing mcthat mayor remarks vietnam. out what's t final and he said there's one lesson. that is the advisors to the president need to sit around with the president and argue with him. and say, wait a minute, let's look at all the options, you have to create a conflict situation. he said what happens in the presidency is no one wants to argue with the president, particularly in front of other advisors to the president gets isolated and lives in a bubble and i think you can argue that happens to every president including this one. >> schieffer: thank to both of you. a subject that we could talk about all afternoon. i want to thank you, we'll be right back with a little news analysis on some of the news of the day. and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down. so imagine, what if there was a new class of medicine that works differently to lower blood sugar? imagine, loving your numbers. introducing

about vietnam, chilly, bangladesh, the deaths of so many people needlessly, and that history, robert mcnamara, the kennedy brothers, others who in their books and memoirs try to make somewhat restitution . we sort of suspected at the time that it was bad. may be worse. we are sort of sorry and actually we have some evidence we feel we should share with you, discloses should have at the time. kissinger never said a word of self criticism, not one. and he gets very petulant and angry in spiled with ugly when he is criticized as he said, a contingency, that he was to try it i would be fascinated to begin, of course. c-span: we don't have much time. >> guest: don't say that. [laughter] >> guest: i will be the judge of that. c-span: if you knew that there was a certain amount of time left, no idea, six months, a year, however, things you want to do? >> guest: yes, but what they don't tell you is what kind of monthly's would be. as the other reason they don't like being asked the late congressman had the same thing is me. debt recently, but before he died he had about four or five. he had done a lo

general mcnamara, who was the general back in the states then of the army, came over and he was there he came up to the eighth station, slightly wounded. i don't know if he did it with his fingernail or not. but anyway, we patched him up and he got a purple heart for it. so when he was there, he asked general allen, are you going to be able to take crowina? general allen said i'm going to take the 16th infantry up. they have what it takes. they'll take that town. we moved up ahead of the 16th to take care of the troops that were fighting there at the time. so he moved the 16th up. and they went in to attack. they had to get in from miles around, because the germans really had it sealed off in the front. so the commanding officer requisitioned 100 mules. and they brought the mules in, took us a while to get them up there, because if the guy that had the mules wouldn't let us have them until he got paid. so we got cash to pay the guy. we got the mules and packed in the machine guns, and the ammunition, all that, in around a ways, around crowina. and attacked the germans. there was reall

vietnam war was winnable, yet he -- so in the pentagon papers, it was showing the malfeasance of mcnamara and johnson. second said, look, these guys were a mess, this war was a mess, blame it on kennedy and johnson, blame it on the democrats, grabbed the high ground and moved policy in a different direction. instead, he got more and more mired in trying to control the southeast asia situation and famously expanding the war into cambodia and laos. host: doug brinkley is our guest. topic, the 40th anniversary of the resignation of president nixon. in new york, democrats line. ralph, you're on the air. caller: what an honor and pleasure to talk to douglas brink lee. i'm a proud worker from upstate new york, and i just have a question, the focus for the blue-collar, working-class worker, did doug brinkley find anything in the tapes to -- for nixon to vote for nixon, if we focus on the blue-collar, working-class worker, to get the worker to think of their cultural values over their material needs, nor to break them away from the new deal coalition, and i thank you very much, bye. guest: good q

starting with mcnamara in vietnam, working with congress for two dozen years and more recently working with people at cato to get out of afghanistan. this is an excellent panel. there was some discussion about how people regard the wars afterwards, how they might react afterwards. i wanted to ask mr. miller your reaction to the following. have been to countless discussions, strategy sessions of liberals about getting out of afghanistan. they keep emphasizing that they have to explain to congress that the public opinion polls shows that a majority want us to get out. i tried to explain to them that the people in congress read the same newspapers, but know that if they get out, if we do get and things go south, an opponent can run against them as having voted in a way that we lost the war. and in terms of your research vis-À-vis how congress reacts the public opinion, i wanted to know what your thoughts are. >> adam? >> i think as sort of my last point, basically they are wrong. it is not going to be a who lost iraq syndrome. there is not going to be another joe mccarthy. it is not as th

. >>> joining me now is a managing editor of msnbc.com and david mcnamara.origins, do you think ferguson can become some sort of an agent of change for this country? is it on that path? >> you know what, i think it highlighted a couple of things that just looking at it from around the country, people are so disturbed by it and would like to see an end. number one, the militarization of the police departments in this country. people do not want that. so i think if ferguson can shine a light on that and we can move towards a time and a period in this country where we don't have that anymore, i think that would be wonderful. i think, you know, also this idea of police just not being held accountable. shooting of unarmed young people, african-american or otherwise. the racial statistics in this town on the number of african-americans who are arrested 98% of the arrests are african-americans. more than 80% of the searches are of african-americans. very high number of traffic stops are for african-americans -- >> i think 85%. >> widely disproportionate. putting an

vietnam war was winnable, yet he -- so in the pentagon papers, it was showing the malfeasance of mcnamara and johnson. second said, look, these guys were a mess, this war was a mess, blame it on kennedy and johnson, blame it on the democrats, grabbed the high ground and moved policy in a different direction. instead, he got more and more mired in trying to control the southeast asia situation and famously expanding the war into cambodia and laos. host: doug brinkley is our guest. topic, the 40th anniversary of the resignation of president nixon. in new york, democrats line. ralph, you're on the air. caller: what an honor and pleasure to talk to douglas brink lee. i'm a proud worker from upstate new york, and i just have a question, the focus for the blue-collar, working-class worker, did doug brinkley find anything in the tapes to -- for nixon to vote for nixon, if we focus on the blue-collar, working-class worker, to get the worker to think of their cultural values over their material needs, nor to break them away from the new deal coalition, and i thank you very much, bye. guest: good q

vietnam war was winnable, yet he -- so in the pentagon papers, it was showing the malfeasance of mcnamara johnson. second said, look, these guys were a mess, this war was a mess, blame it on kennedy and johnson, blame it on the democrats, grabbed the high ground and moved policy in a different direction. instead, he got more and more mired in trying to control the southeast asia situation and famously expanding the war into cambodia and laos. host: doug brinkley is our guest. topic, the 40th anniversary of the resignation of president nixon. in new york, democrats line. ralph, you're on the air. caller: what an honor and pleasure to talk to douglas brink lee. i'm a proud worker from upstate new york, and i just have a question, the focus for the blue-collar, working-class worker, did doug brinkley find anything in the tapes to -- for nixon to vote for nixon, if we focus on the blue-collar, working-class worker, to get the worker to think of their cultural values over their material needs, nor to break them away from the new deal coalition, and i thank you very much, bye. guest: good quest

conversations, and listen to president johnson's phone calls as he is talking with the ,ecretary of defense, mcnamara and begin to understand two huge realities that were not known to the public at the time. one, that the north vietnamese attacks on the second of august, 1964, were provoked. they were not the unprovoked aggression that was presented to the american public and the basis for our bombing back. secret running the patrols, the so-called desoto patrols, to figure out how the north vietnamese radar work, to see how they would respond, and .o intercept communications as part of an ongoing pressure on the north vietnamese. boats onacks on our the second of august were presented as unprovoked aggression when actually, we have provoked them. this is one of the big ones. the president knew it. the defense secretary knew it. we have them on plan -- we have them on tape. it certainly has something to do with that attack. i think we should also at that time, mr. president, explained that op. land 304a on friday night, we had four boats from vietnam land -- manned by vietnamese or other nationals at

at -- it was seven years ago i went over to do what turned out to be the last interview with bob mcnamara who was secretary of defense for kennedy and johnson. mr. vietnam. and who apologized for vietnam. it was three hours, he had an apartment in the watergate kept pressing mcthat mayor remarks squeezed out what's the final lesson of the mistake of vietnam. and he sai turning point finally support those kurdish, means those who face death. they have enough supplies. >> schieffer: that brings up an interesting point. you goat -- we did throughout the iraq war that the kurds were really good, they were good fighters all of that. a man who was a senior commander in that region said yes but pretty much like light infancy. he says frankly they could not turn back these isis forces if they decided to mount a campaign to take urbil. they are going to need a lot of help it seems to me. >> disaster here islamic state has american armor and weapon re millions of dollars that was given up when iraqi -- iraqi army. do they have the expertise? >> appear to. what is astonishing they're able to maneuve