secretary of defense mcnamara was robert strange mcnamara, aptly named and president johnson said get your butt to vietnam and find out what the hell is going on over there. more or less in those words. and mcnamara came over and took briefings at the embassy and picked up west moreland and they flew up to the area and took briefings from colonel moore and brigadier -- major general harry kenard who was the division commander. and on the plane home, dated 30, november, 1965, mcnamara wrote a top secret eyes-only memorandum to the president. and on 15 december 1965 president johnson called a meeting of his wise men at the white house. they had a two-day session. when johnson walked into the cabinet room for the beginning of this meeting, he had a copy of mcnamara's memo in his hand and he shook it at him, and said, bob, you mean to tell me that no matter what i do in vietnam, i can't win that war? and mcnamara looked at him and shook his head yes. the memo said, roughly speaking, that the north vietnamese had not only met our escalation of the war, they have exceeded it. and we are at

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so did key advisors -- robert mcnamara, henry kissinger. year afterayed in, bloody year, unwilling to risk the credibility -- by which i mean their nation pro credibility, their party's credibility, their own personal credibility. they were unwilling to risk of the credibility, the degree to which the credibility would suffer should they withdraw from the and him without victory, or consider a more recent example. leslie gelt -- you cannot get more establishment than that -- admitted he supported the iraq in large part to maintain his own credentials within the system. "my initial support for the war in iraq was symptomatically unfortunate tendencies in the foreign policy community, namely the incentive maintaint wars to professional credibility." when you think about it, he was doing this toward the end of his long career. you can imagine how much more thisful, it seems to me incentive would be for someone just beginning his or her career. toward even he felt it the end of his career. what is striking though, none of these missteps altered

from mcnamara's -- the westmoreland.me, we also knew it , and we said, how can, as john kerry said, and i worked with john kerry at vietnam veterans against the war, and i saw them suffer, suffer not only for what they experienced but for their being excoriated when they opposed the war. what we learned, what we could do was as americans, love america by opposing what we felt was a war that, as i said, did not, did not have a legitimate purpose. and today, as i speak of this, now i am throwing it back to you, had we really fully embraced what you're trying to do here today at the center , which is to form the basis of healing, is exactly what was said in the last discussion panel discussion which was, we , have to have a clear purpose, know that we are in jeopardy. we have to we have to know that , that's the case. or we go open and do it, again, as we did, from my point of view when we went into iraq. , and if we can heal and hate the war, and not divide between chose who say, you were unpatriotic. no you were unpatriot

. >> alex you had been a military advisers secretary mcnamara. you have been a veteran served overseas. before you came into the crucible of the white house, what we are personal opinions about vietnam? i am curious from a personal point of view. : i was in the junior rotc. and the senior rtc in georgia. south, many of us in the i felt a special obligation to serve. i also felt that presidents do the right thing. i have a strong belief. our presidents do what was right for the nation. >> and other presidents want to do the right thing. my vietnam experience really began in the fall of 1959. i was a senior aide to a great guy named rosie o'donnell. he was a four-star chief of home based in hawaii. he said to me one of your jobs will be to see to it that we never stay on this island more than 30 days. we were based in honolulu. our beat was the far east. over a 33 month time, we made trips to the far east. we almost always hit vietnam. it was important at that time. we visited there at least 22 or 23 visits. visit, we would meet with our ambassador

before that and i think you do a great job of discussing the personality, mcnamara come from the world of academia and their statisticians. he wasn't in the defense world before he became secretary of defense. you want to lay him out as a pr guru, someone someone who really understood how to do brand management. talk a little bit about that. he invented the concept of the soap opera. he was a leading guy in the advertising department and he was in charge of soap. there were four soaps competing with one another and he thought how are we going to sell more so.oap operas. let's play during the soap opera. then he became the secretary of defense in a very powerful one at that. >> that really comes in handy because one of the first things you have to do with this idea of darpa is not something that is easy to do. you have to convince them that this is an idea worth doing.m tw >> yes. >> there was serious pushback in some of these old documents that i found he would meet with the individual trying to convince them that this was a great idea. the army said no, it should be our territory, spe

. >> reporter: movie insider tara mcnamara shows us why audiences love dori and has right formula forice secret success. >> the secret is that dori is the most liked character in disney pixar history swimming right past previous record holder shrek the third which earned 121 million. >> how long will it to take the next installment. >> i'm sure they are talking right now about a third film in this franchise, it does take four to six years for a pixar movie to come out so we will to have wait, but i think that they left a lot of room for a third story for hank the octopus and how he lost that eighth ten particular california. >> nothing to be a shame of. >> so much more tonight on the insider, ukee and jessica, back to you in the studio. >>> i was wondering about that. >> yes. >> coming on, with terms like that, just keep cranking them out. get all your hollywood news tonight and every week night at 7:30 on the insider on cbs three i'm sure nemo is still pulling in a nice piece of cash from 13 years ago. >>> and she's on the screen set says but some people hope they steer clear of buyi

it's being run the same way mcnamara ran the vietnam war.e pete the lessons of history. >> isn't general mcfarland saying to president obama no means to talk to president obama and say this isn't working? >> but the response to that is oh, yes, it's working, you see they are gradually regaining some territory. they just took fallujah back. some time they may take mosul but meantime isis is sending people out on these suicide missions and also connected with them. so there will be more attacks. it's just a given. when with about a 10,000 american troop. 90,000 sunni arab countries we could go to raqqa and take them out in a matter of weeks. they won't do that. >> why not? >> one reason is none of the sunni arab countries trust us to do anything. that's why the saudis went without even telling us as they were trying to beat back the iranian-backed hidies. there is no respect for the united states of america and its leadership. >> so what happens -- i mean, president obama is pretty much given us an idea of what he is willing to do and not do.

oh, we are winning the war and mcnamara, robert barack obama is doing the same thing. we lost vietnam, big time. this is another lie from another president, and he is a liar, about everything, so -- my second point is, don't punish american citizens. toh ar-15's, you still have pull the trigger every single time to make one bullet come out. these are not machine guns. do not let democrats confuse people. jackie's fear could not identify a 3030 from a ar-15. you still have to pull the trigger. like i did not use a machine gun, he used a semi automatic. you have to stress to these people. guest: the point you bring up about the weapon itself is critical to this discussion. it is about the act of violence, and the person that is using the weapon, and you see in this situation, that he went through the background checks, and as you said, the weapon he purchased was a semi automatic weapon, one used by millions of law-abiding citizens across the united states for hunting, or shooting sports. we have to be very careful and getting into this discussion, not the tread on the s

program is the only is thing keeping them moving andgnd joining us now this morning are coaches angel mcnamaraada richardson. richard i just want to begineg obviously, it's a very sad dayad not only in the boxing worldor but justly world in general of l the passing of muhammad ali. ali any you guys deal with this every te day. he lived with parkinson'sith par disease for over 30 years foror decades obviously a fighter a and this is something that youiy all see on a daily.. >> yes, we do.o. and to reflect on that, that tht is why -- i mean, those arehose the reasons that we do theohe things that we do because we recognize and our thoughts andht prayers go first of all to muhammad ali and his family fam and also a huge thanks fornks f their efforts in a cure for parkinson's disease.so but what we do here at rock r steady boxing is we are looking at our fighters and wee want to sustain and increasere their quality of life whileif they are fighting against parkinson's. >> do you think it gives gives people hope that they can haveav a purpose and do something sethi that we can all do. >> absolutely

oh, we are winning the war and mcnamara, robert barack obama is doing the same thing.lost vietnam, big time. this is another lie from another president, and he is a liar, about everything, so -- my second point is, don't punish american citizens. toh ar-15's, you still have pull the trigger every single time to make one bullet come out. these are not machine guns. do not let democrats confuse people. jackie's fear could not identify a 3030 from a ar-15. you still have to pull the trigger. like i did not use a machine gun, he used a semi automatic. you have to stress to these people. guest: the point you bring up about the weapon itself is critical to this discussion. it is about the act of violence, and the person that is using the weapon, and you see in this situation, that he went through the background checks, and as you said, the weapon he purchased was a semi automatic weapon, one used by millions of law-abiding citizens across the united states for hunting, or shooting sports. we have to be very careful and getting into this discussion, not the tread on the secon

we that now from mcnamara's, the westmoreland. and we said, how can as john kerry said and i worked with john kerry at vietnam veterans against the war, and i saw them suffer, suffer not only for what they experienced but for their being juror yaexcoriated when t opposed the war. what we learned, what we could do was as americans love america by opposing what we felt was a war that as i said did not have a legitimate purpose. and today as i speak of this, now i'm 3 ithrowing it back to you, had we really fully embraced what you're trying to do here today at the center which is supporting the basis of will healing, is exactly what was said in the last discussion panel which was, we have to have a clear purpose, know that we are in jeopardy. we have to know that that's the case. or we go open and do it, again, as we did from my point of view when we went into iraq. and if we can heal and hate the war and not divide between chose who say, you were unpatriotic, no you were unpatriotic and say we love those who put their lives and ther