. >> mcnamara: woo hoo!ered these waves relatively tame. they were only 20 to 30 feet high. >> mcnamara: look right there, anderson! rainbow, rainbow! look at that! yeah, holy moly! that's amazing. now it's time to hold on. >> cooper: it's not just the wind and the current that makes the waves here so massive-- it's the existence of an underwater canyon. at its deepest point, the canyon is nearly three times the depth of the grand canyon. it starts about 100 miles off- shore and runs nearly all the way onto shore. >> mcnamara: all this energy, and it funnels in like a "v." so all this energy, it comes down the canyon, and as soon as it hits a shallow point, kaboom! >> cooper: getting hit with all that energy is, according to mcnamara, part of the joy of big wave surfing. on this wave in nazareÉ, he ditched his board to prevent it from hitting him. you can see mcnamara as a little speck on the lip of the wave. this is the view from the camera on his board. >> mcnamara: a lip lands on me. i get obliterated. an

there's a public mcnamara and private mcnamara. a public westmoreland and private westmoreland. those public conversations are pretty darn honest. when they meet in the white house when he comes home when the war is ongoing, his public comments are very, very different than they are inside the white house when it's just the president and senior leadership. mcnamara i think is the same way. we can find fault with them as mark alluded to in terms of being more honest publicly, but in private when you look at some of the mema that both westmoreland and the secretary of defense are giving the president, they're brutally honest. mcnamara, a number of memoranda in 1966 and as early as 1967 are pretty forthright in terms of possibility of what's achievable here. one of the things we all need to consider as citizens as we're trying to be engaged with discussions on war is how honest the dialogue that we're hearing is, and how that might be different than the inside conversations that are happening within -- within official channels. >> i'll just add the joint chiefs from early on were p

mcnamara was also a party to that. someone asked about mcnamara. his apologies and his books are to some extent attempts by him to cover his tracks. i think he also bear as lot of responsibility. i would just say i don't think the military needs to be responsible for restoring or even can restore the credibility that was lost in that fashion. it is ultimately the politician's responsibility to maintain that trust. and the military obviously has an important role to play in terms of behaving properly. i think in general, the military did acquit itself well. i don't think by this argument that there was me lies happening all over the place which is something that lately has been alleged. i think fundamentally it is a question of presidential leadership, and if the presidential leadership is that far off, there is not much the military can do. >> i want to add one thing. that strategic dialogue, as jackie said, that has to continue to occur. that military officers obviously do have a responsibility. that's being honest about what's capable with the us

i wish johnson had taken that advice, instead of the advice of robert mcnamara.ut despite the serious mistakes that johnson made in vietnam, which i write about, there's one moment i think just shows johnson's largeness and that is the beginning of 1968, he got advice from his commander in vietnam, william westmoreland, who said to averted a fee that maybe turned the stalemate around, maybe we should move tactical nuclear weapons to south vietnam and consider using them and johnson takes one listen to that and says absolutely not. i've been fighting this war for years to keep it from going nuclear. it's not-- i think it's an important war to wage, but i don't want the ru russians and chinas coming in-- anyone else who would have been president, let's turn wars over to the generals, they know more. it shows they don't always know more you need a president with experience and wisdom and largeness that johnson showed at that moment to stop us from a nuclear catastrophe. >> one more question and then we'll go to your questions in the audience. this is a hypothetical,

mcnamara is on the verge of a nervous breakdown. he's about to be replaced by clark clifford. problems have -- transition has already started. i mean, didn't you find it surprising at one point in one of the meetings, mcnamara just starts crying when they start discussing this? he just starts crying when they discuss -- why don't we do more bombing? he just breaks down. he's on the verge and he's moving -- of a nervous breakdown. he's moving out of the white house to be president of the world bank. but i think this sort of sums it up quite well. johnson's tired. exhausted. because here's the problem. you have got to answer. and they ask him, he asks the joint chiefs, and he asks wheeler in particular, "if i give you 206,000 more, can you guarantee me a much better situation?" their answer was what? do you remember? did they guarantee victory? what did they guarantee? do you remember? they guaranteed that we'd be able to hold on to a few more provinces for a little longer, and if we didn't send these troops over, those provinces, and we just as well walk away from them. these w

david mcnamara made the captains of man city and reading play the game to decide who kicked off...becausess in the dressing room. he's been suspended for three weeks. scotland have made six changes for their test against south africa at murrayfield this weekend. head coach gregor townsend has brought hquones back into the side at centre — even though his performance was criticised after the loss to wales earlier this month. prop gordon reid and lock jonny gray will also start. one other line of rugby news for you — new zeland will host the women's rugby world cup in 2021. they beat competition from australia — and will be the first southern hemisphere country to stage the women's tournament. and before we go, we need to pay tribute to the end of an era... of one of the great footballing haircuts is no more... manchester united's marouane fellaini has got rid of his trademark curls...for a much closer, and some might say tidier cut. i'll have more for you in the next hour. in a moment we'll have all the business news, but first the headlines on bbc news... theresa may is trying to secure c

conor mcnamara is in the welsh capital for us. high expectations in cardiff tonight.s. if they win here tonight, they will win the group and take a huge step toward qualifying for euro 2020. danny, this is working out very well for ryan giggs and the nations league is working very well for wales. ryan giggs and the nations league is working very well for walesm certainly is. this is what the nations league was designed for comedy should often the final games, getting the fans really excited. it is assured up tonight. denmark win they will win the group, if wales win it is promotion for them and onto a play—off spot for the qualifiers for euro 2020. an important game for both teams. the welsh youngsters have done particularly well in this campaign, but the big guns are back. gareth bale is back. you always want full squad available to you. your big players are squad available to you. your big players a re really squad available to you. your big players are really important. you need them fit, firing and playing to their best. he will be delighted that gareth beale is b

people who made disastrous decisions which they later repented in the huge pentagon office of robert mcnamarawho played almost as important a role in getting america into vietnam discussing what seem to be 2,000 round this that ought to be enough. then the young official noticed the defense secretary's body was shaking. he was staring with tears down his cheeks with a portrait on the wall of his predecessor whose career had also been destroyed by holding the office of the secretary. counterfactuacounterfactual's af improbablsource toldimprobable g to speculate upon the consequences. they could probably be contained in many other countries into the authoritarian military rule gave way to democracy. absent all vietnamese ingenuity could have stopped the economy to prosper. success justifies all. nobody today questioned the legitimacy because it is a democracy with a dynamic economy of south vietnam with no more and no less a credible state. granted the same opportunities, it might have preserved its status, but we shall never know. meanwhile, only the so-called liberation struggle comfort of th

david mcnamara, here for years, have been talking about. because ofa association for three weeks because of a bizarre incident between the clash between manchester city and reading in october when he left his queenin reading in october when he left his queen in the dressing room. have you heard about this? no. -- coin. so instead of tossing a coin they played rock paper scissors. he has been banned for three weeks for doing that? the fa say he should have gone back into his dressing room and got the coin. they played the game. they played it and then played the game. didn't seem to object. but he has got in terrible trouble. i do think it is slightly daft. what about the farm at war? -- thumb. i cannot be beaten at thumb war. i have a doublejointed thumb. lam quite war. i have a doublejointed thumb. i am quite good at it myself. but i would never beat that. we will have again later. maybe not on the telly. we are reporting a story this morning, the first woman to run the premier league. they have a rundown of all the women in charge of spor

like, i like marines but, you know, i'm not robert mcnamara.robably not what you're gonna be doing. people of your generation, what do you think the attitude is towards the military bases? >> vivian: as long as we're not living near the base -- >> anthony: right. >> vivian: it doesn't affect us that much. >> anthony: right, near the base it makes a difference. >> vivian: near the base it makes, right. >> anthony: i mean look, you know right away, i mean, it's tattoo parlors, strip clubs, vape shops, i mean, you know. >> vivian: and also it's very loud. that's a big issue. >> anthony: tourism is probably the future of okinawa, yes? i mean, beautiful weather, beaches. if the bases leave, it's gonna be big hotels and resorts and golf courses. which is worse? chinese tourists or american marines? >> vivian: i'll stick with the marines. >> anthony: semper fi. ♪ ♪ not everybody here agrees with vivian, by a long shot. okinawans may be easy going and laid back, but the island is also a relative hot bed of political activism. largely inspired or provok

time to extend forgiveness to those who made disastrous decisions so late one afternoon with robert mcnamaraho played the role of president kennedy and johnson bringing america into vietnam was discussing ammunition requisitions. 2000 rounds for enemy infiltrator that the young official the body was shaking he was staring with tears streaming down his treat - - of his cheeks of his predecessor whose career was also destroyed by calling the office of the defense secretary. and with to speculate on those come on - - consequences the local vietcong could be contained in many other countries or authoritarian military rule the vietnamese ingenuity and success justifies all nobody with pyongyang. because it is a democracy with a dynamic economy with a credible statement. granted the same opportunities to preserve the status but we shall never know. meanwhile only the liberation struggle confirmed the prestige and legitimacy to cling to the trappings hoping they continue to define vietnam and victories with the communist party most conspicuous or only success but in 1993 returning to vietnam and ta

bob mcnamara new for a week, there was a chaotic random quality, 9 strangers and a brother.bobby kennedy was the attorney general. the kennedy cabinet, trying to untangle the vietnam legacy particularly weighs heavily on that. eisenhower had a solid functional cabinet. they had good people. a no drama type of approach. eisenhower's popularity, 64% of the presidency. intellectuals didn't respect them, he loved to golf and cook steaks, and very deeply, time magazine had a poll in 1959. the man of the decade. eisenhower was respected and revered by the people but less so by the intellectual class. he pretended didn't bother him but it did. >> if kennedy didn't have more respect. >> the question was on kennedy's respect for eisenhower as a military leader. i haven't been in the military but there is always a sense as a junior officer that the guys on top are no less than they think they know and there's always rolling the eyes at the guy on top. in cormorant more reflective moments credit eisenhower is a serious military leader. kennedy's critique might be the skills eisenhower

david mcnamara is currently appealing his three week ban.nteview with racing driver billy monger — who's back behind the wheel after losing both his legs in a crash 18 months ago. that's on the bbc news channel at 6:30 tonight. that's all the sport for now. more from the bbc sport centre at 11:15. and rebecca, i promise you, it is me for the rest of the week. and sally, ford could news that is. thank you so ford could news that is. thank you so much harder update this morning. the headlines on bbc news... theresa may prepares to sell her brexit withdrawal plan to business leaders saying it will stop eu migrants "jumping the queue." in brussels — eu ministers discuss the political declaration that will set out the future relationship with the uk 3,000 foreign doctors are having their licenses checked after it emerged a fake psychiatrist was allowed to practise for 22 years with no medical qualification. 77 people are now known to have died in huge wildfires that have swept across northern california. nearly one—thousand people are still missi

i blamed this on mcnamara. i'm wondering, what do you think the impact, and if there's any hard data on the impact of the decision to only allow company commanders, battalion commanders, brigade commanders to be commanders for six months. on the war, but particularly on leadership, what kind of thing did that say about leadership for junior officers. >> i think it was a terrible decision. in fact, if you want to go even further than that, the one year tour of duty was an issue in terms of how our allies saw our commitment to the war itself. the six month tour of duty, combat tour of duty, it takes at least that long just to know your ao. and then all of a sudden to be yanked out of it made no sense whatsoever. now, for -- and the argument was, and one of the arguments was that combat stress will get to you, and therefore. at the same time, it's combat stress on your allies side, and it's combat stress on the enemy too. i think that it was a mistake. and i don't see that it was efficient in anyway. >> i agree. i

david mcnamara made the captains of manchester city and reading play rock, paper, scissors to decidehaving his coin with him. and roger federer‘s up and running at the atp world finals in london. he was pretty miffed when he lost his first match at the 02 on sunday. but he was much happier against dominic thiem, winning in straight sets to keep him in contention for the semi—finals. if he wins the whole thing, it'll be federer‘s 100th career title. let's have a look at some of this morning's back pages. susanna dinnage the face on many of them — but that is wayne rooney. another story they have forced a premier league teams have been asked to give £250,000 towards a £5 million leaving present for richard scudamore, the man susanna dinnage is replacing at the premier league. lovely picture of jadon sancho and gareth southgate on the back of the guardian, the 18—year—old expected to start for england tomorrow after impressing at borussia dortmund. and another picture of rooney. but eddie jones is furious with referees according to the express. he says he won't go to another referees' s

david mcnamara made the captains of man city and reading play the game to decide who kicked off...becausequestioned the benefits of taking formula one to new parts of the world. the five time world champion was back at the mercedes hq yesterday to thank staff for their support during the season. f1 recently announced a new grand prix in vietnam, but hamilton says he would like to see more races in countries with "real racing history". and roger federer rose to the occasion at the atp world finals in london. after losing his first match at the 02 on sunday, he had to beat dominic thiem to remain in the competition — and came through in straight sets to keep him in contention for the semi finals. if he wins the whole thing, it'll be federer‘s 100th career title. and before we go, we need to pay tribute to the end of an era... of one of the great footballing haircuts is no more... manchester united's marouane fellaini has got rid of his trademark curls...for a much closer, and some might say tidyer cut. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. let's return to we

this is the mcnamara terminal delta hub and another one.hat is the story now from detroit. i will send it back to you in the studio. ainsley: thanks camille. i love the guy willing to fly and put aside his fears. todd: i feel bad for him he hasn't been on a plane since he was 5. it's a horrible experience. you will be disappointed, sir. ainsley: really? todd: when he gets to his lady he will be excited but flying is no fun. ainsley: i enjoy it unless long lines and delays. other than that i have a good experience. steve: today is the busiest travel day of the year. just expect lines there are going to be lines eventually at the end of the day god willing you will be there. steve: thanks for joining us on this gets away wednesday. look at this. hundreds of caravan members are waiting at the southern u.s. border. some in the media are barely covering the threat. the next guest is the daughter of a legal immigrant and weighs in on it coming up. ainsley: plus being called on assault on democracy voter fraud plot involving the homeless that just