now president mcnulty left this part out of the biography. i ran for congress of the united states twice before i was elected the third time. i ran in 1988, met my second favorite presidents, ronald reagan when i was a young man and candidate.

joining us this morning former deputy attorney general paul mcnulty.ent of grove city college in pennsylvania. >> thank you, carl. >> all we can do is guess about what the president and comey said to each other until or if comey ever speaks, but mccabe yesterday did say it is not standard bureau practice to tell someone they're not the subject of an investigation in a q&a with feinstein. what would it mean if he did say that? >> well, there are times when the fbi, and the justice department, more the justice department than the fbi actually, you know, responds to questions from individuals about the nature of an investigation in relation to them. so it's -- i have experienced that to some extent. you know, you'll have different words we use. sometimes we talk about subjects and targets and so forth. so we can only speculate as to what that conversation might have been about. and whether or not, you know, the former director comey was being more precise with his language. it's just hard to say. >> very hard to say. and we're obviously caught in a cyclon

now president mcnulty left this part out of the biography. i ran for congress of the united states twice before i was elected the third time. i ran in 1988, met my second favorite presidents, ronald reagan when i was a young man and candidate. nothing is more successful than people with talent. genius will not. under the word of genius is almost the proverb. education will not, where the world is full of educated derelicts, he wrote. persistence and determination alone are omnniponent. from this day forward, the grove city college class of 2017, you're called to lead fearlessly. be men and women of intig gret with a servant's heart. expect opposition and persevere and lastly, have faith for as the good book says, he knows the plans he has for you. plans to pro per you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future. as you go from here today live your lives according to the precepts and the principles that you've learned here at grove city college. strive to lead with courage and conviction in the places where you live and work and

if we had resident mcnulty at think we are exceeding the history of grove city college. that's an total time here among us. because john is going to introduce them and their backgrounds, i will just give you one or two lines on both of them. -- in the middle teaching her conference course this year, is the retired dean of arts and letters at grove city college, retired years ago. he's a graduate of grove city college class of 1966, and also the university of michigan law school. he is our center for vision and values go to scholar for articles on the supreme court. anything you want to know happening on the court, jones on it right away. writes great stuff for us. dr. john moore is the seventh president of grove city college, served from 1996-2003. he led the call -- college through its withdrawal from federal student loan programs. a plus for that. [applause] that completed the colleges break from federal ties. believe me, many people around the college -- country another college -- colleges are looking at that, wondering how we did it. dr. alejandra -- a 1984 graduate