you knew linda mcpherson, can you tell us about her? >> linda was on the school board for a few years, and pretty much a community service person after we started the library. while i worked for the school district she was helping me and became a personal friend. >> you lived here for 50 years, and are teaching your third generation of students. what is it like to see some of the people you know and caught over the years disappear in something like this? >> they are all kind of family, and in this community everything is the barter system where you do something for someone and they do something for you. the exchange is an exchange of love. now i'm teaching the grandkids and the girl found in the car, for example, was my first drivered in home schooling. she was 15. they become personal to you, all the kids and stuff. six hours a day, for four years. >> the derrington school district extends. all the kids from the area dom school. >> it goes to the popular trees that go to where the road is entering into the drive. that's where they turn

gary mcpherson remembers it felt like being in a blender. >> instead of making a margarita, you justng it and mixing it and when it got going fast enough you took the top off. >> reporter: gary is among the many rescued saturday when the wall of mud hit his farm. he says he and his wife, linda, were sitting in their reclining chairs and before he knew it, he was in the fight for his and her life. his air force training kicked in. stay calm, try to find a way out. he grabbed a stick. >> stick to the north until i don't have any more stick there and i kept waving it. >> reporter: a rescuer saw that stick and pulled him to safety. all gary could think about was trying to save linda. she didn't make it. there are so many stories of heartbreaking loss in the oso mudslide. the rising number of those who died. the missing and those who survived. the search and rescue effort continues in this area, but the outlook for finding anyone alive is grim. >> they're digging through the different piles. there's guys looking in holes. as you notice out here, there's lumber. there are trees, actually,

so is librarian linda mcpherson. >> this has changed my life in many ways. it's devastating. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: mcpherson's family did receive one glimmer of hope when their chocolate lab buddy was pulled from the rubble 100 yards from their home. >> we needed a win. so -- >> reporter: one win in a place overcome by loss. joe fryer, nbc news, oso, washington. >> i'm miguel almaguer over oso. on this clear day, we have a perfect perspective of the damage. one square mile of debris to 500 football fields worth of destruction. it just goes on and on. at least two communities, both over 100 years old, were demolished by the mudslide. dozens of homes are damaged or destroyed. we believe this is steelhead drive, the street, the community that took the brunt of the damage. this is the area where first responders heard cries for help for 12 hours. they just couldn't reach everybody. this isn't the first time this mountain has given way. eight years ago it buckled in the exact same place just not up at this scale. folks who lived here never thought they woul

. >> reporter: linda mcpherson was sharing a cup of coffee with her husband gary when the slide hit. he was washed 200 yards down the road and lived. but she did not survive. >> we're grieving for our loss, because she was such a wonderful sister. she was like a rock in our family. >> reporter: experts say the mudslide's debris field is 30 to 40 feet deep in spots, as tall as a four-story building. the volume, 15 million cubic yards. as nearly five times as much mud as there is concrete in the hoover dam. amid this impossible search, there are now more questions. did logging on the ridge directly above the slide play a role? today we learned of a 2010 report that warned of the exact area where the earth gave way was dangerous. >> people knew that this is a landslide-prone area. sometimes big events just happen. and i want to understand why. >> reporter: those answers will come in the days ahead. for now those leading the search are struggling to stay strong. >> we are humbled beyond belief in this county. we have received -- it is very humbling. >> reporter: for a second day in a row

no one has been found alive since saturday, when mac mcpherson was among those pulled from his shattered home. >> i was all balled up, but this one hand was free and i had a stick, so i just kept digging and digging with the stick, and i saw a little bit of light. and i shove that sucker up there and started waving it back and forth. >> brown: rescuers saved mcpherson, but his wife, linda, was killed. others waited longer to learn the fate of loved ones. summer raffo's brothers found her body yesterday still in her car. meanwhile, as families confront their losses, the search teams face more long, slow days of digging. >> it is so wet and mucky it's like a swamp. if we were trying to put big machinery out there, we'd lose it. it would disappear in the muck. >> brown: and with more rain forecast in the coming days, the job isn't likely to get any easier. >> woodruff: jeff will talk with a top national guard official involved in the search, right after this news summary. the white house is touting a win in its campaign to sign up americans under the new health care law. president obama mad

linda mcpherson was having coffee with her husband, gary. he was pulled out by neighbors but they could not of not find his wife. four-year-old jacob spillers was found by rescuers on saturday. his father and three siblings are still missing. scott, rescuers were hoping to find people buried in their cars. instead, they're finding vehicles twisted and broken into pieces and now some officials are admitting they may never find some victims. >> pelley: and the very latest on this on "cbs this morning" tomorrow. danielle, thank you very much. now to the search the whole world is following for any signs of malaysia airlines flight 370. these images captured three days ago by a french satellite are getting a lot of attention tonight. they appear to show more than 100 objects in the southern indian ocean. that is the end of the route that the boeing 777 is believed to have traveled before all signs of it were lost. now, as holly williams reports, the challenge is to find those objects to see if they are wreckage from the plane. >> reporter: we fle

mac mcpherson was with his wife linda when the mudslide slammed into their home. debris flew everywhere. >> so i just kept digging and digging and digging with a stick until i could see a little light, and i shoved that sucker up through there and started waving it back and forth. >> reporter: rescuers saw the stick. mac lived. linda did not. the urgent search for survivors continues with national guard black hawk helicopters now on the case. on the ground, crews are using bulldozers and their bare hands to comb through debris. the terrain is treacherous, the mud like quicksand. >> when i flew over the area on sunday, i said that you needed to see it to believe it. now that i've seen it from the ground, i must tell you that i still can't believe what i saw. >> reporter: authorities have discovered at least 25 bodies, but say some may never be recovered. it's just too dangerous to dig them out. the small rural community north of seattle is only beginning to process this tragedy. >> that safety, that security, that feeling of comfort has been shaken. >> reporter: be

. >> there is little relief for mack mcpherson his wife is gone. he's haunted by moment he saw the mud caving in. >> horrendous noise. i looked over my shoulder. trees were going like this. and noise kept going louder. >> he says the scars remind him every day. now, he says he's back where he was, before he met linda. unsure of what he'll do next. >> 50 years ago today a 9.2 earthquake devastated alaska. there are massive landslides the quake claimed 131 victims the deaths and damage perfect the quake extended to hawaii and here in california. wayne freedman looks back and ahead at our ability to deal with this event. >> as drills go it ventured on low key side. >> people don't mow what to do in the case of an alarm going out and evacuation drill. iet may explain the response this morning as red cross and sheriffs and fire departments tested times and readiness in case of an emergency like a tsunami the choice not an accident. 50 years ago a 9.2 wave killed 11 people, destroying half of the business district. it's ancient history that could repeat.

linda mcpherson, a former librarian. christina was a dental office manager and mother of three. >> our community is devastated. >> dan rankin is the mayor in the town east of the landslide where many grieve. he says the community is desperate to find closure but with so many missing they haven't even begun the healing process. >> it's such a large thing at this point. that we're going to need help. >> with all of the resources in place for that difficult search, officials here are now shifting attention to emotional support. they've established a crisis hot line and brought in mental health counselors to help all of the first responders dealing with this stress. >> michigan governor says the state will not recognize 300 same-sex marriages performed last weekend. the announcement closes the door to certain benefits granted to michigan married couples a day after an appeals court stopped any additional same-sex marriages. the stay means the ban is back in effect. >> it appears investors don't have a sweet tooth for the gam

mobile homes, vacation properties. 14 people have been killed, including reportedly this woman, linda mcpherson. she lived in this house, reportedly her husband was seriously heard. 69 years old, she used to be the town librarian. dozens are missing, steve hadaway, who did not even live in this neighborhood. he was working on the satellite dish in a house. contractors, visitors, even people who were driving by. entire families are unaccounted for, including delaney webb and her if he yay san were visiting her grandparents and the four of them have not been heard from. authorities are so worried that they'll find more victim as soo. >> now we're at a place where we're seeing people who have been lost, and this makes it all the more heart wrenching. onnan bets. appreciate it. thank you. >> president obama wrapped up the nuclear summit in the netherlands but that meeting was overshadowed by the crisis in ukraine. president obama is concerned that russia will move deeper in the country, and russia could face more sanctions if the stand-off escalates. mike viqueira reports from the haig. >> reporter

homes, cabins, mobile homes, vacation property. 14 have been killed inkewelleding reportedly linda mcphersonwho lived in this house. her husband was hurt. the 69-year-old was approximately known and she accused to be the librarian. dozens are missing, including this man steve hadaway, he doesn't live here. he was working on a house. it's not just residents, but contractors, visitors, families are unaccounted for, including this one, delaney webb, and her fiancee were visiting her grandparents at this home. the four have not been heard from since. it's difficult for crees to get to the neighbourhood so authorities are worried the death toll will rise. >> i want to go back to allen schauffler in arlington. this is a town of about 200 people. can you describe the area around it? >> it's a rural area. more neighbourhoods in the woods along the river than what you might think of as a town much this was a big horseshoe bend in the river and a couple of roads and a series of properties stretched out. beautiful riff vow. gorgeous river valley, pretty scene. a whole series of homes in that one area w

linda mcpherson was at home wh her husband. rescue crews saved her huhs -- husband, but not her. christina, her mother and 4-month-old granddaughter died. this is a custodian. she was driving to a horseshoing commitment. we'll speak to summer's brother. >> michael dunkin joins us, the pastor. we appreciate your time, mr duncan. i know that pastors have a way of helping people find hope were there seems to be no hope. have you talked to people who a week after the disaster are holding onto hope that their loved ones will be found? >> well, there are some holding on to hope. most people came to the place where they realised that this is not going to be a rescue, but a recovery. they want to see the loved ones, recover the bodies so they process closure. most of the people i spoke to now are not expecting to see loved ones alive any more. >> it's such a small community. i assume that you are dealing with people who are grieving for more than one person. >> i didn't get the question, what was that again. >> not a problem. i said it's such a small community, i guess you are helping pe

homes, but mobile homes, vacation properties. 14 people have been killed, including reportedly linda mcpherson who lived in this house here. her husband was hurt, she used to be the librarian. and steve, who didn't live here. he was working on a satellite dish on a house on the street. it's not just homeowners missing, but contractors, and even people driving by. entire families are unaccounted for, delany webb, with her fiance, they were visiting her grandparents. and they have not been seen since. that death toll could rise. >> let's bring in pat abbot, professor of geology at san diego state university. and pat, 'em welcome. >> good to be here. >> what causes mudslides like this? >> to begin with, we're dealing with very weak rock. you see the layers of sand. and some of that is volcanic ash that has fallen from the sky, and plus glaciers in the area have ground up fine powder and it makes very weak rock. we can walk up to the cliff and mull it off. you take that weak sediment, and fill it up with the heavy rains, which increases the pull of gravity, and we see not just the slide. but we se

gary mcpherson remembers, it felt like being in a blender. >> instead of making a margarita, you just kept mixing it and mixing it. when it got going fast enough, you took the top off. >> gary is among the many rescued saturday when the wall of mud hit his farm. he said he and his wife linda were sitting in their reclining chairs. before he knew it, he was in the fight for his and her life. his air force training kicked in. stay calm. try to find a way out. he grabbed a stick. >> stick it up there until i haven't got any more stick left. >> a rescuer found that stick and that you told him to safety. all he could think about was trying to save linda. she didn't make it. >> there are so many stories of heart loss in the mud slide. the rising number of those who died. the missing and those who survived. the search and rescue effort continues but the outlook for finding anyone live is grim. >> they're digging through different piles, there are guys looking in holes, as you notice out here, there is lumber, trees, mud, dirt, residents, everything that anybody had out here is now thrown aro

. >> reporter: her sister, linda mcpherson, was one of the victims of the washington state landslide. body was found hours after the tragedy occurred. linda lived next door to her niece and nephew who thankfully were out of their house when the landslide happened. this is wreckage from their house. linda was next door with her husband mack at the time. he was hurt but will survive. >> what kind of sister was linda? >> oh, my gosh. she was such a great sister. she was always there if you needed anything. so was so nonjudgmental. >> reporter: irene and her husband ralph lived 15 minutes away. they got the awful now in a phone call from their son. irene tries not to think about what her sister experienced. >> i don't think about it. in my darkest moments, if that comes into my thoughts i don't go there. because i can't imagine what she went through. >> reporter: on the day after the landslide, family members went back to linda's nieces and nephew's home to try to recover a say. it was there they found something else extremely valuable. i watch with irene the video a friend shot of the re

one of the first memorials is for linda mcpherson, the town librarian.s reading the paper with her husband when the mud slide hit. rescue workers where able to save him, but she didn't make it. she retired and enjoyed working in the garden. we'll continue to bring you the latest in washington. for up to the minute information. for search and recovery, you can log on to the website at aljazeera.com. >> rain is slowing the recovery mission. let's turn to meteorologist eboni deon. >> it's not as heavy as yesterday morn, but we have a lot of moisture in the area. as the low pressure winds up here off the pacific north-west. it's pulling in the moisture, creating the rain showers that we continue to see around washington and western areas of washington. where the grouped is saturated. we set a record, receiving more rain than we have seen in the month of march alone. we are talking more rain as we get into the day on into monday. the rain will continue and we are not expecting a break until tuesday. to the upper midwest and we are watching a storm system. as

also a help survivors to find a way to track rescuers with a stick >> : but mcpherson's wife did notow for rescuers is another challenge or rain will worsen the already unstable ground. >> : annexing slower and more complicated. hulk of rescues continue to shrink as the work of recovery looms large. >> : heading to washington today and tomorrow. to help please efforts. this includes nine members not one of the volunteers spoke with us by what she expects to do well in that disaster area >> : the need more resources and time of crisis will work with local committee agencies and other groups just because they know what's needed in that community >> : will be able to put our resources were the to do the most good >> : so far cost larger train workers to the disaster area is also providing shelters for people consider overnight to get information and other help. the like to make a donation you can call a right cross or go online we have that information on our kron4-dot-com >> : #marriage >> : what people admit second often lent quitting the junk food addiction >> : stocks ending higher

. >> reporter: that's exactly the way it felt to 81-year-old mac mcpherson. >> you just kept mixing it, mixing it and when it got going fast enough took the top off, and it went oh. >> reporter: linda was sitting beside him when the avalanche of mud hit. he grabbed a wooden stick to dig himself out but could not find linda. >> she was gone. >> it's very overwhelming, and it's almost surreal. but you see the pictures and then it starts hitting home. >> reporter: but the strength of this community is hitting home, as well. oso's determination is reflected in a new phrase here, "oso strong." many of the searchers are local loggers who know the missing. as much as it is their mission to find bodies, each discovery is somber. >> it gets really quiet for a few minutes. you can almost hear a pin drop out there. you see seasoned veterans in this business, they start to tear up, their eyes get glossy. and it's kind of their way of paying respects to these people's loved ones. >> reporter: officials here have warned the number of confirmed fatalities will rise substantially when those updated nu

linda mcpherson, a former librarian and a dental office manager and mother. three in a growing list, part of a community that still hasn't come to grips with their loss. >> reporter: as you can see they're expecting yet another bad day of weather out here today which is really slowing things down. rescue teams say they are determined to not give up until they find everyone, but that may take quite a while. robin? >> thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to a remarkable rescue and it was all caught on camera. a houston construction worker trapped with nowhere to go. flames ungolfing this apartment complex. all around him, he tries climbing off the balcony and ends up dangling. john muller is here with the story. >> you heard the expression close call, it doesn't get closer than this. that construction worker defying flames and certain death and he got an assist from houston's bravest. >> oh, my god! oh, no, my god! >> the video is jaw dropping. watch again as this wall of fire comes crumbling down, barely missing a construction worker and a firefighter. momen

the first funeral for town librarian linda mcpherson will be held next week. >> we're grieving for our loss, because she was such a wonderful sister. she was like a rock in our family. >> reporter: today, 17 families share that loss, while so many others wait for word on loved ones still missing. at 10:37 a.m., the time this mudslide hit, the governor has asked for a moment of silence to remember those affected. lester, they will stop searching at the search zone and then resume moments later. back to you. >> all right, miguel, thanks very much. >>> dylan is tracking the forecast in that area, and all of us watching this so closely. how much rain could they potentially get, dylan? >> unfortunately, another couple of inches of rain thp . this system is very, very active. you can see this area of low pressure right over the pacific right now, and this is going to stream in moisture off of the ocean here. so, a closer look shows you the yellows indicate where we have some of our heavier rain, and you can see right near oso we do have these pockets of downpours that are moving through. and

there are some folks who are doing really good imitations of thomas robert malthus people like guy mcphersonrunning around saying you know it's all over we're in a hospice now you know it's time to pack it in years suggesting twenty two years. do you do you see that as as as the as the kind of the rational middle ground i mean is it possible that in twenty two years we can stabilize c o two or is this just too big a job and if it can be done what do we do and what are your thoughts on those two ends of the extreme that i venture. you know well the you know those like you you know as you allude to fox news and some. other conservative media outlets who will tell you that you know things are fine we've already pumped all these greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and you know we're not seeing the end of the earth they're sort of like the person who jumps off the top of a you know thirty story building and as he's falling and he passes the third floor says fine so far well that's sort of what we're doing right now we're we are committing to much larger increases in warming with the c o two we'r

discussion around the realities of climate change last week on my radio show i had climate scientist guy mcphersonn and he had some terrifying things to say about the future of our planet take a look. we are experiencing a warmed and warming planet it's difficult for me to imagine there will be habitat for human beings in the not too distant future. consider for example that meth and leaking out of the arctic ocean or bubbling out of the arctic ocean that one feedback alone. contributes so greatly to planetary warming that. incorporating just a single feedback indicates that it can be as warm as ten c. warmer than baseline by two thousand and forty in and we've we've never had humans on a planet more than three and a half see above baseline so you're predicting the end of humanity yes. but first went on to say it's over humanity as a species will largely die out probably within our lifetime certainly within our children's his message is that it's too late to do anything about it so we should do everything we can to make life better before it all ends on the other hand michael mann the famous clima

i mean you guys are like mcpherson out there saying and it's over it's over it's toast. i'm not ready to go there either because i i think we can still turn this around i think there's a you know place my first but i think it's important that there be a few people out there saying this is how bad it could be or maybe even is that you know that in any case we have we have just a minute left here do you think that this i.p.c.c. report is finally going to light a fire under some foreign governments are there are we get any feedback. i don't think it. i think it's going to move us incrementally along in terms of lighting fires but we're not going to have a fire let until the people mobilize we need a mass public mobilization so we need to stop looking to politicians to solve this because the politicians are going to react to people we people need to we've got to drive it i mean you know president obama's climate action plan is. as you know is more p.r. than planned and has zero chance of stabilizing the climate so i mean. there's three fifty doubt or your it is a show us the

. >> reporter: search teams have been looking for librarian linda mcpherson. her family waiting for any news. >> oh, my god. >> after her dog was pulled from the rubble, there seemed like reason to hold on to hope. >> he needs a bath really bad. >> reporter: today in oso, it's the small moments that keep so many families going. as this rescue enters day four, volunteers are being allowed to join the search. the national guard is here. it is all hands on deck. >> thanks very much. earlier this morning we spoke with john penning ton, the director f the department of emergency management. we asked him to describe what the search and rescue teams are dealing with as they look for survivors on a daily basis. >> sure. and that's -- first and foremost, we appreciate the condolences. they're dealing with devastation. i think the pictures pretty much speak for themselves at this point. if i could really quantify what this looks like and what the operation essentially is at this point. a microcosm of mt. st. helens and that debris field. it came down hard and fast, it i

earlier in the week i had a guy mcpherson on my radio program and he is of the opinion that basically it's game over but you know there's enough carbon already been emitted is forty year time lag no we're going to see the extinction of the human race or our species you know within a couple of generations on the other hand we had dr michael mann on a couple of days ago and he said that were at least two decades away from a point where enough positive feedback loops have been tripped that we've passed a point of no return and of course then you've got the you know out of in the year two thousand and thirteen i think there was a total of almost thirteen thousand scientific papers published two of them said oh this is there's no crisis here at all so that you know you've got that other end of the extreme of the argument what's what's your take on where we're at in the spectrum of dire nice well i think there's two debates that we need to focus on here one is we have to simply ignore the denial this debate because it's really silly we don't have serious debates about the easter bunny or sa