let me focus to you, colonel mcsally because mr. al-muslimi raises a legitimate issue that somehow there is the appearance, the perception of greater damage and possible missed dates associated with this weaponry, this tool. is that a fair criticism? >> i can't speak specifically about operations in this country, but i can see the capability does exist to make sure we minimize civilian casualties in the process i'm familiar with is one where he made a high-level identification once a target is approved and they met the criteria and geographic location with a variety of sources. again, we have high confidence we've done a thorough collateral damage assessment, which is a detailed process we go through. i encourage you all to get the briefing on that process and how we do that and to make sure we do not have on tenant of the casualties. we do have the process available in the case is so eloquently been sharing of the impacts of strikes going on in the country, we need to look at the skirt me of who is on that list and make sure operat

colonel mcsally is the chief of current operations in africa where she held build the targeting attempt. she was assigned the the saudi arabia air operations center when the president's drone was first used for reconnaissance and air straiks. she was also a legislative fellow live senator kyl. she was added to the payable at the request of our friend and colleague, senator lindsey graham. thank you for serving our country. the fliers you. >> thank you mr. chairman, ranking member cruz and the distinguished members of the sub emptyee. i come you from an operational point of view and i will speak in generalities at the unclassified level on my military experience related to universe remotely pilot aircraft. i use that term because that is part of the challenge. there's a campaign by al qaeda going on against us and the word drone has a connotation that we have these autonomous vehicles flying around and striking at will without a whole lot of scrutiny and oversight to them. the military does use the term remotely piloted aircraft to explain and try to paint the picture that it actually ta

. >> thank you colonel mcsally. mr.gen director of the national security studies program for the new america foundation and a best-selling author and widely publicized journalist. and national security analyst of the center for and an adjunct professor at john hopkins school of keffiyehs to studies and holds it his degree from oxford university. please proceed. >> thank you for the privilege of testifying. we get the new american foundation basically are collecting data on the drone strike so for the last three or four years a about a lawyer but my presentation is about what has been happening with the drone program. here are the main points. under obama 307 drone strike since pakistan six times more than president bush a drink at 180 million pakistan these that is a large price to pay and to be a more discriminating program as a result to override the discussions but also an increasingly congressional oversight and the supreme court justice brandeis said earlier think we have this discussion. so there is a series of re