timothy mcvay, he's done. >> reporter: after witnessing the execution, mcvay's attorneys argued against the death penalty. >> if there is anything good that can come from the execution of tim mcvay it may be to help us realize sooner that we simply cannot do this anymore. i am firmly convinced that it is not a question of if we will stop it is a question of when. >> reporter: president brush said today that timothy mcvay chose his own fate and said that his execution brought justice. >> may god and his mercy grant peace to all. to the lives that were taken six years ago, to the lives that go on. and to the life that ended today. >> late today, mcvay's body was cremated. his ashes turned over to his attorney who will distribute them in an undisclosed location. one victim's mother worried that americans might forget the victims and because of all the publicity remembered mcvay. but another victim's mother said quote, he is gone. he could never call our children collateral damage again. >>> still to come on a second look, a killer is scheduled to die in california's death chamber. how one

interviews in which mcvai revealed much more. we're going to wrap up our live coverage for now. i'm chris jansing. i thank you for watching, but i invite you to stay tuned and listen as rachel maddow tells the fascinating story and nbc films presents "the mcvai tapes:confessions of an american terrorist." >>> we've got a lot here. >> six years before 9/11 in the worst act of terrorism the united states had ever experienced, a truck bomb explodes in oklahoma city. 168 people died. over 700 people are injured. the man who did it, a former u.s. army sergeant, timothy mcvai, never confessed his crimes to the fbi, to the courts, or to the media, but he did give a series of interviews detailing what he did and why to two newspaper reporters. interviews that have never been heard publicly until now. >> death and loss are an integral part of life everywhere. these people in oklahoma who lost loved ones, i'm sorry, but you know what, you have to accept it and move on. >> mcvai's voice will lay out his version of developments using new facial replacement technology, we transform recreatio

it was a massive truck bomb by timothy mcvay.as in oklahoma just last week and emp said it wsaid it was a terrible price to pay but it look it was beautiful and they have a city motto now. it's one city, one nation, one resolve. they scheduled a marathon for next week ooze a memorial to what happened. tonight they're reviewing safety and security concerns in oklahoma city. >> i hated to marry myself make the point to michael lighter tonight but it's true. we have ten years of ineffect graduates of the school of counter terrorism and investigation. military yifl yan and intelligence. today if you're looking for anything out of this, at least today we're in better shape to investigate what happened to us than we were ten, 15 years ago. >> no question about it. there's going to be much tougher security sanctions all across the country. we're going have to learn to live with them and get along and go forward and not let thing bring us to our knees. i don't think we can raise those come plapts after what happened. >> this explosion we

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you know, just like timothy mcvay didn't represent christianity those his co-conspirator member of theent. this is a time of americans of all faith, religions and ethnic backgrounds need to come together and help rally for the people of boston. >> how do you think the religion affects people's perception of the attack? >> that's a very good question, john. i think that perceptions, you know, were created in the very early parts of this investigation even before the tsarnaev brothers were named as suspects. as we all know there were several media outlets that erroneously reported that there was an arrest of a dark skinned male. and that helped to shape narratives also within the general american discourse that it was one of those other guys. you know, when we look at the, you know, aurora, colorado, dark knight batman massacre where people were kill and had injured, it was a brown arab dude who thought of himself as the joker, we probably would have thought of it as an act of terrorism. terrorism in this country after 9/11 has sadly really only applied when brown dudes do something but

in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcvay. what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both and that is do you see anything -- we have one suspect now deceased older brother who was a permanent resident. we have another who is a naturalized citizen as of last year. do you see anything in the legal immigration system that you now want to go back and say we need to fix this or that and include it in our bill, senator graham you first? >> well, i want to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when he was identified as a potential terrorist. but in terms of immigration, i think now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the shadows and find out who they are. most of them are here to work, but we may find some terrorists in our midst who have been hiding in the shadows. when it comes to the entry/exit visa system. the 19 hijackers all students ove

having people from the aclu, other supporters of civil liberties in saying that people like timothy mcvay who was a domestic terrorist was read miranda rights and the same thing should happen to the brothers. on the other hand you do have the same two senators i just talked about on immigration legislation, john mccain and lindsey graham who said this person is a terrorist should not have miranda rights. it seems the obama administration is going to be straddling the middle ground as they did a couple years ago in that you wait some time before giving them their miranda rights to make sure there's no types of threats to the public safety before reading those rights. and that seems to be the course the obama administration will be taking. >> your network is the subject of two articles i want to bring to our audience's attention nourl national journal and the headlines pete williams reporting and why he was getting the boston story right. goes into his philosophy of whale and won't say when news has been breaking over the last week or so. >> you and i know a lot of journalists in this town

that is mcvay got caught after the oklahoma city bombing. martha: to figure out any links in the evidence in these two cases that will point them in the direction what kind of killer this was and what the motive could have been. we know sadly the memorial service will be underway for mike and cynthia mclelland who were much-loved in that community, dan. >> reporter: that will take place at 1:00 today, not here in kaufman but outside the city where mclelland's lived. we understand that will take place at a very large venue. so prosecutors and law enforcement from all over the country, in fact beyond the country will be there. also we're expecting rick perry, the governor of texas to be there. before that he will be here in kaufman county at the courthouse at 11:00 with a news conference where we are expecting he will be announcing a large reward. also there will be a private burial ceremony for the mclellands on friday. they had five children. in fact one of them was a police officer who works in dallas. back to you, martha. martha: awful sto

what mcvay did was terrorism. what the washington, d.c. snipers was terrorism. they terrorized everybody. i remember getting fuel and you never knew if you were the next target. no, that is the --. >> host: charles there is tweet relating to what you're saying. jim writes can an american citizen be considered an enemy combatant? >> guest: absolutely goes back to the civil war. goes certainly to world war ii. anwar al-awlaki was american-born. president obama use ad drone to kill him in the wilds of yemen. if you, if you fill eight yourself with enemy forces and you go to war against american citizens and you kill americans will fully and you do so on behalf of a movement or enemy forces then indeed you can be considered an enemy combatant. being a enemy combatant simply because you're an american citizen. if in world war ii you went over and joined nazi forces were you not a enemy combatant? of course you were. . . >> he didn't treat those terrible tragedies as access war, but appropriately treated them as heinous criminal acts to be investigated, prosecuted, an