m., detective mcvay thought it was not that he hadn't mentioned that when i first spoke.eded to speak with dooley again, so they went to the apartment he shared with his wife, janet and dooley wasn't surprised to see them. >> a kind of figured it would happen, to do a follow-up. >> before detective mcvay even brought up, dooley told him he'd gone home the morning of the murder. mcvay recorded their conversation. >> i came back here, and then went back to fisher. >> you came back here? >> i can back here, yeah. i couldn't get a hold of my life, and i came home to make sure she was okay. >> yesterday you didn't tell me you left. why, you are just -- >> i didn't think about that. >> the detective also question david's wife janet separately, to see if she would tell the same story. this conversation would prove critical to the entire case. what she said is in dispute because a part of the recording is hard to hear. >> once the first time you saw dave after he left... >> was the first time i see him yesterday? >> yes. >> when you came, after he was -- >> yes, yeah. >> i ask he

they pretty much dominated sean mcvay's team. the raiders got a 2-0 in the preseason, with dallas as the finale next saturday night. for matt millen, , and our entire crew, i'm jason horowitz. we will see you next week in dallas. take care, folks. >> when fun time from the bay area's local news station. you're watching kron. 4 news. >> now at 9, 0, wild sunday for southern california. as tropical storm hilary moved into the region of 5.0. one magnitude earthquake shook things up as well this afternoon, no injuries reported as a result of the quake. but the tropical storm is continuing to bring downpours and flooding to the region tonight. thank you for joining us. i'm noelle bellow and i'm dan thorn from the desert to the coast. tropical storm hilary is. >> soaking the southland situations like this are unfolding. rain taking a toll on a roadway in santa clarita. and as you can see, parts of the road here falling into the soil as water rushes alongside further south and east off pickup truck got stuck in fast-moving waters in riv

there are some, there are few, there are a few timothy mcvay's out there. and we for the most part, the soldiers if you would, the hate movement that are top aided by a how do i describe it, it diaspora or a fantasy community in their mind and they maybe haven't met all of these other not cities and talk to them on the internet insurance creeds and talk about all of the things in the movies and the things that they hate. and what is so important understand is that we called him a lone wolf. i call them out dark. they are not alone though. they are supported. and it could turn out this guy is a member of an organized group, and not see group, and neo-nazi group, or he could not be, but he still supported by that worldwide american wide apparatus of hate that supports him up. and so he's being supported in his beliefs, and they turned himself into nothing more than just a snuggling loser coward that shoots innocent people. it's a heartbreaking day, said day on the anniversary of a civil rights march. but i've worked with these guys all over the country, over

timothy mcvay's out there that can keep things close. but for the most part, these soldiers, if you will, of the hate movement, that are indicated by how do i describe it? a diaspora or a fantasy community in their mind, they may not have met all these others, only talk to them on the internet and shared screens, and talk about all the things in their movements and things that they hate. but there is supported by that. and what's so important to understand is people say their lone wolf's or i say i'm mad dog, they're not alone. they're supported. it fit turns out this guy is a member of an organized group, a clean, and not see group, or he could not be. but he's still supported by that american wide -- and it's also worldwide apparatus of hate. so, he's being supported in his beliefs and then he turns himself into nothing more than a sniffling loser coward that kills innocent people. and it's just a heartbreaking day. a said day for the anniversary of the civil rights march. -- all over the country, all over the south my whole career. an

they compared it to other conduct by timothy mcvay and mass shooters we've seen. they said this is not that. it is a very large sentence. and to your point, it is -- there is plenty of empirical evidence that it is certainty, and not severity of punishment that really deters. so we will see what this judge does with that dichotomy. >> and the certainty, of course, is if it can all be undone. charles, you are talking about it, i hadn't even remember. that of course he started running on this pledge that he's going to pardon people. he's running on the pledge that january 6th was good, it was a noble effort, it hill finish the job this time. in terms of that distinction between the henchmen and the planners, what's interesting is there appears to be at least one individual who falls into both categories. remember, trump says i'm going to march to the capitol with you, and he doesn't. even though it appears he wanted to storm the capitol based on some of the. -- >> it likely. one of the unindicted co conspirators in the federal case, and is also named as a racketeer

with tim mcvay, they moved the trial from oklahoma city to -- the judge allowed a closed circuit televisiono couldn't come to -- to see what was happening -- and in this case as you have just said, the american people of the victims. and i think that that should be the same sort of thinking should apply, that the crime here is a crime against all of us -- a crime that many, many of our forefathers dyed to protect. so, i think it is sort of a mandate for the good of the country, and there is some precedent. >> yeah, you said that there is two pathways towards televising it -- trump -- when is the judicial conference, which is the governing body run by chief justice roberts, to vote for an amendment to world 53. another mechanism is for congress to pass a law, possibly contemplating rule for 53. but neal, you think of both parties agree, there might be a way to shortcut? that >> i do. i think that -- senator grassley of iowa, third conservative republican, introduced a bill earlier this year, for cameras more generally, in criminal trials. it had four democratic cosponsors, including senator

. >> reporter: kula residents jack swank, eric mcvay, and their roommates built a brigade of hoses withir block. >> we're still on edge. we do not feel like we're out of the woods yet, like not at all. >> reporter: mori says many have wanted to buy off her property, but she says even if they need to pitch a tent, it's not for sale. it's for the next generations. amaya is mori's granddaughter. >> it's been really heartbreaking coming up and seeing my grandma's house gone. >> you're planning to rebuild here? >> planning to rebuild. >> you will stay? >> yeah, we will stay. this is my land. this is my land. we from here. this is my country, so i cannot -- i cannot go anywhere, you know? i -- i think about moving to the usa because it's so expensive over here. but where i going? i no belong there. >> reporter: mori told us like those neighbors, her husband also tried to avoid evacuations and try and protect their home. but thanks to that granddaughter, she finally convinced him to leave, and now of course the house is destroyed but the family is safe, norah. >> yeah, and people don't know wh