. >> you're looking at me blankly, ted. i remember that show. >> yeah. that everyone knew i was the anonymous donor. >> because oceana is a passion for you. >> yeah. yes, it is. you know, exciting because i've been doing this for 25 years. and we really are all those people working on ocean issues about to turn a corner because we do know what to do. we have framed the discussion now instead of talking about fish, which puts people to sleep in like two minutes. we're talking about ending -- about world hunger because if you do it right, if you harvest fish correctly and not wastefully and destructively like we do, you can provide 1 billion fish meals a day forever. and we're about to be 9 billion on this planet. it would make a huge difference. perfect protein. you know, freshwater, and you don't cut down rain forests. >> a lot of things we could do if we got smarter. and we will. >> and we are. >> a little all around. thank you. good to see you. you can watch the 15th season premier of "csi" on the new night, sunday, 10:00, 9:00 central right here on wh