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meadows did play a role in slowing that down.ying to slow down president trump's efforts to hire sidney powell in an official kpas capacity, in the house. the lawyer with outlandish conspiracies and meadows did turn toward january 6th as a possible date where something could be different and so i think that trying to figure out where exactly he came down in all of this is an open question and seeing him pressuring the doj, you know, seeing that in writing i think is very telling. >> yeah. maggie haberman, appreciate it. thanks. >>> now to new concerns about the coronavirus just as california becomes the latest and biggest state to drop covid regulations and reopen. the cdc today has issued a new warning for the entire country, calling one strain of the coronavirus, quote, a variant of concern. what this means essentially is that covid vaccines and therapies may not be as effective against the delta variant, first identified in india, and now spreading across the globe, which the cdc says currently accounts for about 10% of the ca
meadows did play a role in slowing that down.ying to slow down president trump's efforts to hire sidney powell in an official kpas capacity, in the house. the lawyer with outlandish conspiracies and meadows did turn toward january 6th as a possible date where something could be different and so i think that trying to figure out where exactly he came down in all of this is an open question and seeing him pressuring the doj, you know, seeing that in writing i think is very telling. >> yeah....
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and the regimen is only out in the open meadow for about 20 minutes. so severely wounded in the left thigh rank in his taken to the 12th corps hospital likely over at the george bushman farm on the west end of rock creek and will later be taken to a more permanent hospital in york, pennsylvania than a convalescent camp in patterson park, baltimore. now following the battle of gettysburg the 11th and 12th corps including the 27th. indiana will be detached from the army of the potomac and sent west to the army of cumberland in tennessee where they'll fight. it battles such as lookout mountain in november. rankin does not return to the 27th, indiana until december of 1863 six months following his wound. in january of 64 rankin's offered an honorable discharge, but he doesn't take it. he stays with the regimen and earns a promotion to first sergeant. and as we move into the spring of 64 on april 19th ranking his commissioned first lieutenant, so he's now an officer as the regiment moves into the atlantic campaign. and during july and august of 64. he's in
and the regimen is only out in the open meadow for about 20 minutes. so severely wounded in the left thigh rank in his taken to the 12th corps hospital likely over at the george bushman farm on the west end of rock creek and will later be taken to a more permanent hospital in york, pennsylvania than a convalescent camp in patterson park, baltimore. now following the battle of gettysburg the 11th and 12th corps including the 27th. indiana will be detached from the army of the potomac and sent...
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"the new york times" reports that meadows, these e-mails from mark meadows were discovered by congressionaltors who are looking into whether anyone at the doj helped trump undermine the election. democrats in the house and the senate are still examining this matter and they might even get rosen to testify according to "the new york times." boris and amara. >> thank you very much. former president trump making a return to the stage saturday night at the north carolina republican convention, and while his first speech in months started out addressing gop policy heading into the 2022 midterms, he couldn't stay away from rehashing last year's election and the claim that he didn't actually lose. >> it is a lie and one that capitol police officers know the repercussions of all too well. listen. >> some of these things could have been prevented, when you're condoning a lie, words matter, what i blame him the most is for the thing he didn't do. he did not send out help. we were waiting for support that day. >> cnn's martin savidge has more on last night's convention in north carolina. martin, what
"the new york times" reports that meadows, these e-mails from mark meadows were discovered by congressionaltors who are looking into whether anyone at the doj helped trump undermine the election. democrats in the house and the senate are still examining this matter and they might even get rosen to testify according to "the new york times." boris and amara. >> thank you very much. former president trump making a return to the stage saturday night at the north carolina...
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donald trump and his allies, people like mark meadows, for example, again mark meadows, right? tried to overturn the election they did everything in their power and they failed because of how clumsy and vulgar and plotting the entire thing was. i mean obviously the department of justice cannot get behind a video that says italians are using satellite technology to change votes. it's too embarrassing it's too bonkers okay? if you're going to overturn an election you need a more professionalized version, a laundered version of a plausible legal story to tell. and keep in mind there were people working hard at that. like republican senators josh hawley of missouri and ted cruz of texas, right? who led the charge of objections the electoral college results on january 6th. voted against them after the mob and stormed the capital and of course texas attorney general ken paxton, who filed a case in the supreme court to block certification of the electoral results in other states. not because the italians were switching votes via satellite right? this became a republican tax across the
donald trump and his allies, people like mark meadows, for example, again mark meadows, right? tried to overturn the election they did everything in their power and they failed because of how clumsy and vulgar and plotting the entire thing was. i mean obviously the department of justice cannot get behind a video that says italians are using satellite technology to change votes. it's too embarrassing it's too bonkers okay? if you're going to overturn an election you need a more professionalized...
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it wasn't just meadows. the email showed trump's assistant sent a document claiming voter fraud in michigan and private attorney olsen contacted daj with a draft lawsuit challenging the election ruts. his email said i have been instructed to report back to the president after the meeting. it doesn't appear the meeting ever happened. days before the january 6th insurrection after weeks of pushing back against claims from the president's allies another doj official wrote it sounds like rosen and the cause of justice won. congresswoman sheila jackson lee is on the judiciary committee and pledged an investigation into the efforts. >> they were using the power of the white house the executive to undermine our separate but equal powers. we as a congress cannot stand for that and you can be assured a deep investigation may result in actions that will move this to a criminal realm. >> reporter: but republican jim jordan says the emails from trump's allies were perfectly appropriate while the response wasn't. >> that
it wasn't just meadows. the email showed trump's assistant sent a document claiming voter fraud in michigan and private attorney olsen contacted daj with a draft lawsuit challenging the election ruts. his email said i have been instructed to report back to the president after the meeting. it doesn't appear the meeting ever happened. days before the january 6th insurrection after weeks of pushing back against claims from the president's allies another doj official wrote it sounds like rosen and...
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they're large areas of greensport open meadows. there's a series of interconnected ponds and lagoons with islands. there's curving paths and carriage drives with a familiar low arch bridges and a minimum of architecture the water bodies. we're laid out along the former course of hollander creek and they were safe but sufficient reshaping and modest mounting was done to ensure drainage broad street has shown to continue through to the park through the park to the south to give access to the philadelphia navy yard. well by 1917 as work. resume the area east of broad street extension had been redesigned to form a large sports ground and the weather and the western lakes had been reshaped with a set of lawns varying in size there orientation and their character. it has all the earmarks of a quintessential olmstead park in its elements and is circulation and and in a circulation which resemblance albeit less expense extensive and scale to underlying ideas and gestures and jcs earlier designed for jackson park in chicago. i think can eas
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meadows also urging rosen to investigate baseless claims of voter fraud in new mexico. those false allegations were promoted by rudy giuliani who is now promoting foam pillows and posting hour long ufo videos to the university. meadows wanted the dodge to investigate a conspiracy theory which falsely claims that anomalies with signature matcher in fulton county has been widespread enough to make trump the loser. two days after that demand was pead, the trump campaign lawyer and meadows participated in trump's infamous phone call in which he say they commit fraud and find the vote so trump could win and meadows suggested that the trump campaign find a way forward that did not involve the courts. the times reported that rosen did not agree to open any of these investigations and the people close to him and former officials said he did not do so. and rosen is in talks to testify on the matter and on the january 6 insurrection. if you need a moment to digest all of this, that is okay. joining me is the co-author of the bombshell piece, the pulitzer prize reporter katie benn
meadows also urging rosen to investigate baseless claims of voter fraud in new mexico. those false allegations were promoted by rudy giuliani who is now promoting foam pillows and posting hour long ufo videos to the university. meadows wanted the dodge to investigate a conspiracy theory which falsely claims that anomalies with signature matcher in fulton county has been widespread enough to make trump the loser. two days after that demand was pead, the trump campaign lawyer and meadows...
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giuliani, meadows, all the president's men, what are they all doing? they're all attacking free and fair elections. started back in 2016, right? continued in the run-up to 2020. then the happened during 2020 and after 2020. trump was never held accountable for his actions there. he was not convicted in either of his impeachment trials both of which revolved around him trying to subvert the presidential election. the core fundamental question of a free and fair election. and what about mark meadows who pushed so hard for a domestic version of the same thing. days after trump left office, meadows got hired at a senior partner at the conservative partnership institute to train and equip the conservative movement, which again, what they're increasingly united around is opposition to american democracy. train them to do what, exactly? i guess we're going to find out because they're going to keep trying. what sanction has meadows received? what's to stop him from trying again? for the people who voted to overturn the election in the house and in the senate,
giuliani, meadows, all the president's men, what are they all doing? they're all attacking free and fair elections. started back in 2016, right? continued in the run-up to 2020. then the happened during 2020 and after 2020. trump was never held accountable for his actions there. he was not convicted in either of his impeachment trials both of which revolved around him trying to subvert the presidential election. the core fundamental question of a free and fair election. and what about mark...
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is mark meadows still involve in any of these? >> conspiracy theories taken over the messaging of the republican party. do we need them and fuel them or may off of them and try to win off elections based off of them. certainly the idea of the election fraudulent has been the basis of new voting laws introduced in various states, or is there a push back including the fact that joe biden won the election. there is a role that the justice department took place in all this. right now as congress investigates what happens in those last day of the trump administration is up to the current department under mayor garland to decide whether jeff rosen and jeff donohue can tell investigators how forth they can be. that's up to mayor justice's department. we'll see how forthcoming they are. >> this is actually stunning, mark meadows. there are people out there who believer former president trump will be reinstated in august, not in this country or planet. katie, thank you so much. extraordinary reporting. >>> another violent weekend shooting
is mark meadows still involve in any of these? >> conspiracy theories taken over the messaging of the republican party. do we need them and fuel them or may off of them and try to win off elections based off of them. certainly the idea of the election fraudulent has been the basis of new voting laws introduced in various states, or is there a push back including the fact that joe biden won the election. there is a role that the justice department took place in all this. right now as...
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i want a meadow. reason meadow with flowers. and a clear ring this far as clearing was a stack. i didn't clear bellowing stack. ah ah, it all snobbish calling outside. i can't control mentions. i can't really keep people at a distance shut in video call on my own director. i really like that ortiz and this mute button on that turns off the sound. it's the most important button of all ah, the korean vehicles and miss ne, calling me it's most public and i have to go back online to get back to the office to embed. although i found that you thanks for joining us. i made you again the news, the news the news, the news, the news, the news the the the the the africa south africa bolter energy, the initiative green came the course john environmental. we started generate green energy from solar and hydro power. there's always energy africa, minutes on w. o the ah, are you ready to get all the places in europe are smashing all the records into a venture. just don't lose your grip. the treasure map for modern globe trotter's gone for some of us are wicker breaking and now also in book form
i want a meadow. reason meadow with flowers. and a clear ring this far as clearing was a stack. i didn't clear bellowing stack. ah ah, it all snobbish calling outside. i can't control mentions. i can't really keep people at a distance shut in video call on my own director. i really like that ortiz and this mute button on that turns off the sound. it's the most important button of all ah, the korean vehicles and miss ne, calling me it's most public and i have to go back online to get back to the...
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we are on the same train with mark meadows' effort to get the department of justice to legitimize the most bonkers election theft theories in the final days of his presidency. pop quiz, what is an ar-15 assault rifle just like a swiss army knife. how about never? tell that to tonight's absolute worst. plus -- >> do not come. do not come. the united states will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border. >> kamala harris' high stakes first foreign trip as vice president to get to the root causes of mass migrations in central america, and all that, and jane fonda joins me later in the hour. "the reidout" continues after this. crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond. oh! don't burn down the duplex. terminix. don't♪ welcome back ♪uplex. ♪ to that same old place that you laughed about ♪ ♪ well, the names have all changed ♪ ♪ since you hung around ♪ ♪ but those dreams have remained ♪ ♪ and they've turned around ♪ ♪ who'd have thought they'd lead you ♪ ♪ (who'd have thought they'd lead you) ♪ ♪ back here where we need you ♪ ♪ (back here where we need you) ♪ ♪ yeah, we tease him
we are on the same train with mark meadows' effort to get the department of justice to legitimize the most bonkers election theft theories in the final days of his presidency. pop quiz, what is an ar-15 assault rifle just like a swiss army knife. how about never? tell that to tonight's absolute worst. plus -- >> do not come. do not come. the united states will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border. >> kamala harris' high stakes first foreign trip as vice president to...
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what's sanction has meadows received? what's to stop him from trying again? for the people who voted to overturn the election in the house in the senate. rick scott. that republican caucus including mccarthy and stefanik. the attorney general who tried to steal the election for being overturned. willing participants in the state senate in arizona who committed this fraudulent audit. what penalty have they faced? what's sanction have the experience that would induce them to stop? mark meadows is chilling dude and he goes on tv and i'm sure he goes out to dinner in the scene does this thing. the answer is essentially zero which is why they won't stop until someone goes to jail or they find the weak point in the fence and they get through and they succeed. so what do you do when one party and two party system is embracing anti democratic politics? >> -- staffer of the atlantic he's latest piece is titled the capitol rioters one. and adam let me start on that piece because it helped clarify some of my own thinking about this as we roll out. when you say that i th
what's sanction has meadows received? what's to stop him from trying again? for the people who voted to overturn the election in the house in the senate. rick scott. that republican caucus including mccarthy and stefanik. the attorney general who tried to steal the election for being overturned. willing participants in the state senate in arizona who committed this fraudulent audit. what penalty have they faced? what's sanction have the experience that would induce them to stop? mark meadows is...
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trump's chief of staff at the time mark meadows tried to have rosen arrange an fbi meeting with rudy claimed italy was using military technology and satellites to somehow change votes in favor of president biden. now rosen later wrote to then acting deputy attorney general richard donahue, quote, i flatly refused. i said i would not be giving any special treatment to giuliani or any of his witnesses, and reaffirmed yet again that i will not talk to giuliani about any of this. cnn's whitney wild joins us now. it didn't end there. meadows kept pushing and rosen kept pushing back. >> reporter: there was really a relentless effort at the end of december and early january by the white house to try to get doj to overturn the results of the election. i mean, there were members of the white house reaching out, there was a private attorney reaching out. for example, there was a private attorney who was peddling this lawsuit, trying to give it into the hands of then acting attorney general jeffrey rosen because he wanted doj to file a lawsuit that would in effect seek to of overturn the electi
trump's chief of staff at the time mark meadows tried to have rosen arrange an fbi meeting with rudy claimed italy was using military technology and satellites to somehow change votes in favor of president biden. now rosen later wrote to then acting deputy attorney general richard donahue, quote, i flatly refused. i said i would not be giving any special treatment to giuliani or any of his witnesses, and reaffirmed yet again that i will not talk to giuliani about any of this. cnn's whitney wild...
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one pertains to mark meadows. do you believeou that mark meads ever quote dropped to his knees and beg for president trump's forgiveness as chief of staff in the same way he begged for your forgiveness is speaker of the house? >> i don't think so. it was one of the stranger things i've seen a speaker. mark meadows when he was running for office i was in asheville north carolina doing a romney event and stuck around the next day and did an event for him. he gets to washington a couple of months and later in what is he due? he -- to become speaker. i was elected and i get over it so i'm over it and i don't think much aboutut it but he wants to come and see me. ii had a policy of any member want to seem a democrat or republican come on in. so meadows shows up and looks a little nervous and he sits on the couch across from the chair i was sitting in and he started to talk and if he's talking he slid off of this couch onto his knees onto the floor and put his hands in a prayer position and said mr. speaker will you for
one pertains to mark meadows. do you believeou that mark meads ever quote dropped to his knees and beg for president trump's forgiveness as chief of staff in the same way he begged for your forgiveness is speaker of the house? >> i don't think so. it was one of the stranger things i've seen a speaker. mark meadows when he was running for office i was in asheville north carolina doing a romney event and stuck around the next day and did an event for him. he gets to washington a couple of...
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meadows was trying to get the justice department to do.t really goes against everything that every justice department has tried to have in place since the watergate era and this is republicans attorneys general as well as democratic attorneys general. it is simply appalling. >> what is supposed to be the consequence when a policy like that is broken? one of the things we ran up quickly and repeatedly in the trump administration, policies, norms, standards, expectations not only violated but flagrantly trampled and then us learning the hard way as a country and as a people that there's real no consequences for people who violate those things. in this case, this is a fundamental ten net of what the justice department is supposed to be but i don't know that anything will happen for this flagrant violation of it. >> one of the things the trump administration did expertly was trash norms, trash policies. there is no criminal sanction for the violation of the contacts policy. but you would hope that people who are involved in government at the e
meadows was trying to get the justice department to do.t really goes against everything that every justice department has tried to have in place since the watergate era and this is republicans attorneys general as well as democratic attorneys general. it is simply appalling. >> what is supposed to be the consequence when a policy like that is broken? one of the things we ran up quickly and repeatedly in the trump administration, policies, norms, standards, expectations not only violated...
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he should come take over the mitchell meadows show for the next 154 shows while i will just marinate myself in the west wing and then we'll to across top like this when i'm done and will, you know, will cover it all. that's perfect. >> martin, the man of humility that he is sitting home right now saying, i could never do that. i could never do that. and so yes, he could start and apocalypse now but no he cannot host -- he does not believe that he could to the work you do. he is a great admirer, rachel. he really wants you to have this. the short way of doing this is just watch the episodes that i wrote. but that will save you more than 100 hours. but it's on the white rachel and we will watch together as soon as i get out there will binge-watch together. >> that is absolutely fantastic. you have completely pulled me over. thank you my friend, thank you mr. xin. . >> think you rachel. thank you. well beto or work is going to join us tonight. and he is going to discuss pure insanity. that is what beto o'rourke has been fighting. pure insanity. and pure insanity are the words that one o
he should come take over the mitchell meadows show for the next 154 shows while i will just marinate myself in the west wing and then we'll to across top like this when i'm done and will, you know, will cover it all. that's perfect. >> martin, the man of humility that he is sitting home right now saying, i could never do that. i could never do that. and so yes, he could start and apocalypse now but no he cannot host -- he does not believe that he could to the work you do. he is a great...
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meadows even sent rosen a youtube clip about those satellites.al, who called it, quote, pure insanity. so, let's bring in texas congresswoman sheila jackson lee. she joins us now. she's a member of the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, thank you very much for being here. according to these emails, president trump and his chief of staff, mark meadows, were relentless in their efforts to try to get the acting attorney general to take up these conspiracy theories and these fictitious claims of voter fraud. what can -- now that this information has just been released, what can congress do about this now? >> well, thank you so much, again, it's good to be with you. that is why the house judiciary committee and the senate judiciary committee have announced a formal investigation. i want the american people to know how seriously we take this, because in actuality, the trump administration, his doj, both under sessions and barr, and then, of course, you just said the acting attorney general rosen, really, under the pretext of a criminal investiga
meadows even sent rosen a youtube clip about those satellites.al, who called it, quote, pure insanity. so, let's bring in texas congresswoman sheila jackson lee. she joins us now. she's a member of the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, thank you very much for being here. according to these emails, president trump and his chief of staff, mark meadows, were relentless in their efforts to try to get the acting attorney general to take up these conspiracy theories and these fictitious...
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meadows did.'t have people telling you in the white house what you should be investigated in, and not react to that in a negative way. i'd like to see would happen with the justice department. >> washington post, and cnn, they all have similar contours. reporters there said and had the sources from justice -- when the email records were obtained by the justice department that appeared to be looking for the sources. you are the bomber justice department were involved in some controversial efforts to root out leagues. things involving reporters. those ended up with you setting a new policy for the justice department that severely restricted the circumstances under which justice department can use its power to seek information about reporters in their sources. i wonder if you follow that reporting and whether you feel the policy left the justice department with was similarly violated there in the last days of the trump administration. >> it appears that the policy we left in place was probably volley
meadows did.'t have people telling you in the white house what you should be investigated in, and not react to that in a negative way. i'd like to see would happen with the justice department. >> washington post, and cnn, they all have similar contours. reporters there said and had the sources from justice -- when the email records were obtained by the justice department that appeared to be looking for the sources. you are the bomber justice department were involved in some controversial...
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and i served with mark meadows, i know him reasonably well. this is tragic, when people allow themselves to do in the service of this unethical president, and to, from the white house, be urging the justice department to engage in bogus investigations, either to gratify the president's ego or even worse, to actually try to overturn the results, this is the president's chief of staff. we have the president's former national security adviser, mike flynn, openly opining but why we can't have a coup like in myanmar. we have the president and his supporters saying he will be reinstated in august, which is nonsense. these are leaders, former leaders of the country that were engaged in this kind of conduct. and with respect to meadows, it's, again, another assault on the independence of the justice department. they shouldn't be having those contacts about any subject that implicates the president. but the fact that he was doing it to try to overturn a u.s. election shows what an anti-democratic party the republican party has become, anti-democratic,
and i served with mark meadows, i know him reasonably well. this is tragic, when people allow themselves to do in the service of this unethical president, and to, from the white house, be urging the justice department to engage in bogus investigations, either to gratify the president's ego or even worse, to actually try to overturn the results, this is the president's chief of staff. we have the president's former national security adviser, mike flynn, openly opining but why we can't have a...
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must be closed. >> sean: you know, jim jordan, you were all over this, i was all over this, mark meadows was all over this, when you stand back we heard nothing but three years of lies, a hoax, and conspiracy theory about trump. the only person that colluded in 2016, that paid for the dirty russian disinformation dossier, that was hillary clinton and the dnc, and the deep state that then didn't verify it because it was all full of lies. as the bulk of information to secure pfizer warrants to spy on candidate trump and president trump. i don't know of any trump that got paid a penny from any oligarch in russia but i do know a guy by the name of hunter with no experience that got $3.5 million from a russian oligarch, former first lady of moscow. how is it the media can get it all upside-down and ask backwards? you've got to help me out with that. >> yes, president's son gets paid by a russian oligarch, the wife, and you have joe biden taking off sanctions and approving the pipeline. i'm old enough to remember when the press called that collusion but it's a whole different set of rules for
must be closed. >> sean: you know, jim jordan, you were all over this, i was all over this, mark meadows was all over this, when you stand back we heard nothing but three years of lies, a hoax, and conspiracy theory about trump. the only person that colluded in 2016, that paid for the dirty russian disinformation dossier, that was hillary clinton and the dnc, and the deep state that then didn't verify it because it was all full of lies. as the bulk of information to secure pfizer warrants...
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what do you make of this effort by meadows?y. first and foremost, what i see here is a violation of the policy about communication between the white house and the justice department for this very reason. there is a very strict rule about the channel of communication between the white house and the department of justice to avoid either the reality or appearance of partisan politics motivating an investigation. so that's the first problem. but only overshadowed by the second problem, which is the substance of it. to ask for there to be an investigation into something that someone knows is baseless is an abuse of the machinery of the justice department. it is appropriate that jeffrey rosen declined to pursue this because investigations need a factual predication before the levers of the justice department can be used. and that is to protect people from the use of the justice department for partisan political advantage. it has to be based on real crimes. >> so let's talk about another abuse of power. we all remember that infamous c
what do you make of this effort by meadows?y. first and foremost, what i see here is a violation of the policy about communication between the white house and the justice department for this very reason. there is a very strict rule about the channel of communication between the white house and the department of justice to avoid either the reality or appearance of partisan politics motivating an investigation. so that's the first problem. but only overshadowed by the second problem, which is the...
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i want to get your take on it, mark meadows. unfortunately, both of you were not very friendly to me, because i would ask for information, and you often hate it for me but you knew it was true but said yeah, i can't talk about it, and i would ask the obvious question, am i over the target, and i might get some affirmation or read into it that i was getting affirmation, but the reality is, it is the democrats that bought the russian dossier. the reality is, ukraine paid the bidens, russia paid the bidens, kazakhstan paid the bidens, china paid the bidens. now imagine if it was donald trump's family that made all that money. >> well, listen. what they do is have one standard for the democrats and another standard for president trump and his family, and when you start to see that, that is what the american people hate. jim is exactly right. when you start to see and what joe biden has given away, and what has the american people actually received in return? zero! not a single thing. and yet, what we continue to see is a weakness ab
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the emails between meadows and rosen were revealed as part of an ongoing investigation.ator dick durbin, said about the emails, what my office found in our investigation is a five alarm fire for democracy, underscoring the depths of the white house's efforts to influence the electoral vote certification. i will demand all evidence of trump's efforts to weaponize d.o.j. and his election subversion scheme. a look at the lengths trump and his chief of staff went in pursuit of the big lie is where we start this hour with some of our favorite reporters and friends. katie benner, whose byline is on that "new york times" reporting is here. also joining us, matt miller, former chief spokesperson for the justice department and frank figliuzzi is here, former assistant director for counterintelligence and host of the bureau podcast. all three, msnbc contributors. katie, there's not a lot that i can read about the trump era that leaves me shocked and horrified, but your reporting left me shocked and horrified. tell us more. >> well, as you said, the reporting, the emails were revea
the emails between meadows and rosen were revealed as part of an ongoing investigation.ator dick durbin, said about the emails, what my office found in our investigation is a five alarm fire for democracy, underscoring the depths of the white house's efforts to influence the electoral vote certification. i will demand all evidence of trump's efforts to weaponize d.o.j. and his election subversion scheme. a look at the lengths trump and his chief of staff went in pursuit of the big lie is where...
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meadows sent mr. rosen a youtube link representing the italy conspiracy. i messed it. i guess it was a thing. it was labeled, quote, brad johnson, rome, satellites, servers, an update. mr. rosen forwarded the e-mail to mr. donoghue, who responded, pure insanity. mr. rosen learned, quote, is working with rudy giuliani. mr. rosen said he refused the request. my question, is, one, katie reported there was a desire to remove mr. rosen and replace him with mr. clark. when you read what he wanted them to do, it casts all the great reporting about people who were spied on, including the chief witness to robert mueller, including adam schiff, the three news organizations, in a different light. >> it does, thank you, katie for your reporting. i think it's important for the american people to know the level of frenzy and desperation and control that the trump -- that president trump and his minions were trying to exercise over the department of justice. you have to look at all of this in 9 totality in terms of the president's behavior. none of that has changed. so this is why, i
meadows sent mr. rosen a youtube link representing the italy conspiracy. i messed it. i guess it was a thing. it was labeled, quote, brad johnson, rome, satellites, servers, an update. mr. rosen forwarded the e-mail to mr. donoghue, who responded, pure insanity. mr. rosen learned, quote, is working with rudy giuliani. mr. rosen said he refused the request. my question, is, one, katie reported there was a desire to remove mr. rosen and replace him with mr. clark. when you read what he wanted...
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meadows' private efforts veered into the recommend many of the outlandish. how significant is that reporting? >> from the beginning, they saw no line it wasn't willing to cross when you tried to influence the justice department. remember, this is a president who repeatedly tried to badger his attorney general, first jeff sessions and then bill barr, into prosecuting his rivals. he tried to badger them into clearing his friends publicly as well as privately, tried to, you know, basically use the justice department as his own personal lawyer in a variety of fights that he had with critics and adversaries that he perceived. mark meadows' e-mails in these final weeks are basically of a piece of administration that did not see a line there to begin with. i think it also tells you just how desperate and how intense this effort to find a way to overturn the election -- remember, these e-mails come at the end of december, and on new year's eve after the electoral college has already met and certified the election. this is, i think, really interesting information her
meadows' private efforts veered into the recommend many of the outlandish. how significant is that reporting? >> from the beginning, they saw no line it wasn't willing to cross when you tried to influence the justice department. remember, this is a president who repeatedly tried to badger his attorney general, first jeff sessions and then bill barr, into prosecuting his rivals. he tried to badger them into clearing his friends publicly as well as privately, tried to, you know, basically...
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mark meadows, great to see you sir. >> great to be with you.e sweeping the nation from fights on the streets to mass shootings, ambush-style attacks on police officers. what is causing all of this? how do we stop it? is america gaining some normalcy soon? we'll ask the national vice president for the fraternal of police, joe grimaldi coming up next when "the evening edit" continues. pilot over radio: here we go, let's do this. ♪♪ pilot over radio: right there, right there. [sfx: revving trucks] pilot over radio: g complete. how do you introduce the larger-than-life gmc yukon? with the world's biggest tweet. the next generation gmc yukon. premium that's made to be used. dave doesn't need a posh virtual receptionist, the next generation gmc yukon. because he cloned himself. while his clone watches the phones, dave can work on his code. and lead his team. dave trusts his clone like he trusts himself. so, in summary, we're going to sell the company. who's in favor?... perfect. but if cloning isn't an option for you, just get posh. virtual reception
mark meadows, great to see you sir. >> great to be with you.e sweeping the nation from fights on the streets to mass shootings, ambush-style attacks on police officers. what is causing all of this? how do we stop it? is america gaining some normalcy soon? we'll ask the national vice president for the fraternal of police, joe grimaldi coming up next when "the evening edit" continues. pilot over radio: here we go, let's do this. ♪♪ pilot over radio: right there, right there....
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emails also reveal that donald trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, pressured top justice department officials on at least five occasions to pursue what one of them called pure insanity. in one email, mark meadows sent jeffrey rosen a youtube video link about an italian contractor using satellites to interfere with u.s. voting machines. jeffrey rosen forwarded the email to acting deputy attorney general, richard donahue, who responded, quote, pure insanity. jeffrey rosen then replied that he refused to arrange a meeting between the fbi and rudy giuliani ally brad johnson, writing, quote, i learned that johnson is working with rudy giuliani, who regarded my comments as an insult, asked if i would reconsider. i flatly refused, said i would not be giving any special treatment to giuliani or any of his witnesses and reaffirmed yet again that i will not talk to giuliani about any of this. on the same day, mark meadows emailed jeffrey rosen, quote, there have been allegations of signature match anomalies in fulton county, georgia. can you get jeff clark to engage on this issue immediately
emails also reveal that donald trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, pressured top justice department officials on at least five occasions to pursue what one of them called pure insanity. in one email, mark meadows sent jeffrey rosen a youtube video link about an italian contractor using satellites to interfere with u.s. voting machines. jeffrey rosen forwarded the email to acting deputy attorney general, richard donahue, who responded, quote, pure insanity. jeffrey rosen then replied that he...
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today cnn caught up with meadows and asked him for explanation. he declined to give one saying i'm not going to comment on anything that may or may not have happened. gas gaslighting. we have the documents. what is this we may or may not, it may or may not have happened. that's not all that we found out today about the attacks on democracy, about the calls from inside the house where at a hearing into the january 6th insurrection, we learned various law enforcement agencies including capitol police and the washington metropolitan police requested help from the d.c. national guard 12 times when the capitol was under violent attack. >> after a series of delay, the national guard did not arrive until 5:20 p.m., more than four hours after the capitol perimeter was breached. this is a shocking failure. >> congresswoman pressing fbi director christopher wrey on behavior, including 50 tips about potential violence. >> the system was blinking red. the committee has obtained documents showing social media company par lour sent the fbi of planned violence i
today cnn caught up with meadows and asked him for explanation. he declined to give one saying i'm not going to comment on anything that may or may not have happened. gas gaslighting. we have the documents. what is this we may or may not, it may or may not have happened. that's not all that we found out today about the attacks on democracy, about the calls from inside the house where at a hearing into the january 6th insurrection, we learned various law enforcement agencies including capitol...
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i want a meadow reason meadow withdrew flowers. when i and a clearing the forest clearing was a stack by the bellowing stack. ah ah, it was and i was calling outside. i can't control mention as a country to keep people at a distance shut in video call. and just on my own directory, i really like that. and this mute button role that turns off the sound. it's the most important bottom of all ah, the pre legal for miss they calling me must we can i have to go back online to get back to the office to embed all i found that button. thanks for joining us. domain you against the news. the news, the news the, the the, the, the no more protection denmark is the 1st country in europe to expound syrian refugees officially argued to syria or again. but the people affected by this ruling are done. they will be arrested and detained upon arrival. ah, focus on europe ah, in 30 minutes on dw, ah, was sometimes a seed is all you need to allow big ideas to grow. we're bringing environmental conservation to life with learning passion, like global ide
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that he was emboldened enough to use mark meadows, that mark meadows would do this tells him about how he had been accustomed to acting within the department of justice. it is not a private law firm, d don. it belongs to the people of the united states, not to the president of the united states irrespective that the person who was the attorney general is his appointee. but this tells you that he was so potentially accustomed to having operated this way that there was almost no shame in it. and also the desperation you speak about, don, the desperation to have somebody with legitimacy support the big lie when court after court said, is there something there? show it to me so i can actually act on that. i can't just go on some sort of baseless gut check that really is a partisan attempt. you have to have something there for me to order something as a court of law. and the surefire way to do so was to use the backing of the department of justice. and when they refused to do so, even calling it pure insanity, that was particularly accurate of a statement. imagine the insanity of saying, i'
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woo. >> we are celebrating meadow's two year birthday. and this fabulous park and it's a glorious day and so glad i live here in california. [ laughter ] >> absolutely. i love that name too. the ten acre park is currently open from sunrise until sunset. >>> and happening tomorrow, a's fans can get a vaccine and get free tickets to future games. get vaccinated up to 90 minutes before the first pitch and through the 1st inning of each home game. they are offering pfizer and bronze jones shots and you can get two game ticket vouchers with each shot. >>> also happening tomorrow, efforts to help students is that struggled with online learning. on monday west contra costa unified will be one of the state's largest school districts to offer in-person summer school. and this is the first time students are returning to campus since all of the districts' schools have remained closed since the pandemic started. and summer school is crucial this year. a large portion of the district's students fell behind one grade level in reading and math over the
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that revelation, according to a "new york times" report, shows meadows repeatedly asked acting attorney general jeffrey rosen to look at claims of fraud in the 2020 election. one email requested the doj investigate a fantastical theory that people in italy had used military technology and satellites to remotely tamper with voting machines in the u.s. and switch votes for trump votes for joe biden. "the times" reports none of the e-mails show rosen agreeing to open the investigation suggested by meadows and former officials and people close to him said that he did not do so. let's bring in the author of that report, justice department reporter for "the new york times," katie benner. she's also an msnbc contributor. katie, what more can you tell us? and are there any laws broken here? >> i'm not really sure that we saw laws broken, but we definitely saw policies violated. it's the justice department policy with the white house is very clear when it comes to matters of enforcement, nobody from the white house except maybe the white house council is supposed to be talking to the attorney ge
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all right, mark meadows from dw sport. thank you for bringing us that story. now the world's elite athletes are counting the days to the started the tokyo olympics next month, despite the uncertainty caused by the corona virus pandemic. the american team could be a major advantage given they return to competition quicker than many other nations . be a max is one sport where the u. s. could thrive american b m x, ride the corner field is one of the lucky ones. the corona virus pandemic means athletes have been struggling to prepare for the tokyo olympics. but with the sports events returning in the u. s. quicker than in many countries, the 2016 goals me, the c is ready. so i've got plenty of gate drops. i've gotten from november through to may of this year. i've raised just as much as i would typically rates, which i think is a huge advantage for us. i'm in that rhythm and europe is just kind of getting started racing again. now. feels training plans for most of the last few. what are still up ended by depends on the mac, but the chaos let hands to explore new
all right, mark meadows from dw sport. thank you for bringing us that story. now the world's elite athletes are counting the days to the started the tokyo olympics next month, despite the uncertainty caused by the corona virus pandemic. the american team could be a major advantage given they return to competition quicker than many other nations . be a max is one sport where the u. s. could thrive american b m x, ride the corner field is one of the lucky ones. the corona virus pandemic means...
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official called a january 1 email from chief of staff mark meadows about voter fraud caused by italian satellites, pure insanity. to another meadows email, acting attorney general jeffrey rosen wrote a colleague, "can you believe this? i'm not going to respond." >> after his efforts to pressure the department of justice failed, president trump grew even more desperate. and so, on the morning of january 6, he sent an angry, violent mob to the capitol. >> reporter: tonight, a south carolina couple seen holding hands inside want capitol among the latest charged linked to january 6. f.b.i. director christopher wray told a house oversight committee close to 500 have been arrested with more likely. >> do you agree that the f.b.i. shares some blame for the failures on january 6? do you take any responsibility for these failures? >> our goal is to bat 1000, and any time there's an attack we consider that to be unacceptable. >> reporter: as rioters broke through police lines and into the capitol on the sixth, the house oversight committee revealed there were over a dozen requests for the nation
official called a january 1 email from chief of staff mark meadows about voter fraud caused by italian satellites, pure insanity. to another meadows email, acting attorney general jeffrey rosen wrote a colleague, "can you believe this? i'm not going to respond." >> after his efforts to pressure the department of justice failed, president trump grew even more desperate. and so, on the morning of january 6, he sent an angry, violent mob to the capitol. >> reporter: tonight,...
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mark meadows from dw sports. thanks for that. right, well, more news from the euros now and as team jersey launches go. it's cause something of a controversy. ukraine's new shirt hasn't gone down well in russia because it features a map of ukraine that includes crimea. and this was the big unveiling look closely and you'll see crimea as part of the map outline. but that's anger. russia which annex the peninsula in 2014. and considers it part of its territory. tournament organizer you approved the design, is internationally recognized as part of ukraine. well, before we go, here's a quick reminder of our top stories. judges in the netherlands have begun hearing evidence against forman suspected of being behind the dining of major airlines flight at an age of 17. 7 years ago. the 3 russians and ukranian national are still at large anglo macros. conservatives have comfortably seen off a challenge from the populace. far right alternative for germany in a regional election. the vote in the eastern state of saxony. unhealthy is the las
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mark meadows from d. w. sports is with us to tell us more about that him or so germany had their 1st warm up friendly last night, but not all of the players were there knowing date. i mean, thomas mother was there, oversee making his come back after 2 years along with, with matt almost, it was a 11 draw with denmark. but what was kind of most interesting was the 4 players who weren't there now before germany plays who played in the champions league final last saturday. that's ok, going to one of my to city and then chelsea sky. how about to move on an antonio luda. they weren't there basically because they were having an extra rest after the champions league final book, then the jimmy team suddenly realized we might have a problem here because germany has this rule that people cannot come in from britain. because britain has been classified as a virus, virus variant area, they cannot come in at all if they're not germany, citizens are residents. and if they algebra systems, they have to quarantine for 14 day
mark meadows from d. w. sports is with us to tell us more about that him or so germany had their 1st warm up friendly last night, but not all of the players were there knowing date. i mean, thomas mother was there, oversee making his come back after 2 years along with, with matt almost, it was a 11 draw with denmark. but what was kind of most interesting was the 4 players who weren't there now before germany plays who played in the champions league final last saturday. that's ok, going to one...
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mark meadows. according to newly released emails, in the final days of the last administration, mark meadows pushed the department of justice to investigate election fraud conspiracy theories, including one that claimed italians had used satellites to remotely switch votes from the ex-president to biden. that's right: he thought the election was stolen by space italians! ♪ ♪ ♪ now, this is obviously insane. first off-- and no offense, but italy isn't exactly known for its cutting edge orbital technology. i believe their space shuttle is two bottles of chianti taped to a vespa. but that didn't stop meadows from violating d.o.j. guidelines to pressure the justice department to look into what's known in the online idiot community as italy-gate-- not to be confused with the italy-gate that i personally uncovered, which is that at a certain point, even breadsticks are limited. this italy-gate claims that barack obama took one of the pallets of cash that was sent to the iranians as part of the iranian nu
mark meadows. according to newly released emails, in the final days of the last administration, mark meadows pushed the department of justice to investigate election fraud conspiracy theories, including one that claimed italians had used satellites to remotely switch votes from the ex-president to biden. that's right: he thought the election was stolen by space italians! ♪ ♪ ♪ now, this is obviously insane. first off-- and no offense, but italy isn't exactly known for its cutting edge...
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emails show mark meadows sending conspiracy theories to the acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen, and his deputy, can you believe this? i'm not going to respond. the deputy attorney general calling it at one point pure insanity. amy gardner, national political reporter who co-wrote this article for "the washington post." amy, good to see you. this paints a picture of pretty high tensions behind the scenes. what more were you able to glean from these emails? >> i feel like the biggest take away from this trove of emails is how much the leadership at doj was resisting these conspiracy theories that, as you say, senior white house officials, including the staff, mark meadows, were forwarding on to the attorney general of the united states. and the fact they were privately saying pure insanity, and can you believe this, and slow walking efforts to actually give them credence or investigate them is really important and significant and shows jeff rosen he, the acting attorney general, was not having any it have and was doing what he could to push back against these efforts. >> and that may
emails show mark meadows sending conspiracy theories to the acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen, and his deputy, can you believe this? i'm not going to respond. the deputy attorney general calling it at one point pure insanity. amy gardner, national political reporter who co-wrote this article for "the washington post." amy, good to see you. this paints a picture of pretty high tensions behind the scenes. what more were you able to glean from these emails? >> i feel like the...
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what was your reaction when you read over the weekend that mark meadows, then the white house chief offf, was pushing the justice department to act -- to investigate some -- i mean, some crazy election theories like the idea that people in italy were using satellites to and military technology to switch votes from trump to biden. i mean, the white house chief of staff telling the attorney general, the acting attorney general to look into that. >> the inappropriateness of it was frankly my first reaction because there are established protocols, norms for the way the white house deals with the justice department. that was thrown completely out the window and then the substance of what he was asking the justice department to do was so out of line, inappropriate, never going to work, never should have been looked at, so overall it was another norm being busted for reasons that have no currency. >> let's talk about your "new york times" op-ed with bob bauer because you say state election officials round attack. tell us more about what you mean. >> there are a number of states that have pass
what was your reaction when you read over the weekend that mark meadows, then the white house chief offf, was pushing the justice department to act -- to investigate some -- i mean, some crazy election theories like the idea that people in italy were using satellites to and military technology to switch votes from trump to biden. i mean, the white house chief of staff telling the attorney general, the acting attorney general to look into that. >> the inappropriateness of it was frankly my...
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meadows was trying to get the justice department to do.s tried to have in place since the watergate era. republican attorneys general and democratic attorneys general. it's appalling. >> what is supposed to be the consequence when it's broken. one of the things we ran up against in the trump administration is policies, norms, standards and expections, violates, flagrantly trampled and us learning hard way as country that there's no real consequences of people violating these things. fundamental tenet of what the justice department is going to be but i don't know anything is going to happen for this violation of it. >> one of the things the trump administration did expertly was trash norms and policies. there is no criminal sanction for the violation of the contacts policy. but would hope that people who are involved in government at executive branch would respect the norms. congressional oversight is something that's one way in which they needs to be brought up. would hope with all the other things congress is in progress of considering, w
meadows was trying to get the justice department to do.s tried to have in place since the watergate era. republican attorneys general and democratic attorneys general. it's appalling. >> what is supposed to be the consequence when it's broken. one of the things we ran up against in the trump administration is policies, norms, standards and expections, violates, flagrantly trampled and us learning hard way as country that there's no real consequences of people violating these things....
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former white house chief of staff mark meadows is here next to tell us what he think about dr.he pandemic after an announcement of publishing the new n book. the newly released e-mail they give us a bit of a rare look into the early days of the pandemic and how dr. fauci handled it. >> the nih was funding the research in the wuhan lab that was taking place, whether they knew it was gain-of-function research t or not is an open question but there's no question they were finding coronavirus research of the wuhan lab and if the same researchers were responsible for the virus getting out and causing the global pandemic is as much as egg on their face, they were finding it, that's a big issue for francis collins and anthony found two. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette ♪ ♪ ♪ common love isn't for us ♪ ♪ we created something phenomenal ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ don't you agree? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ did
former white house chief of staff mark meadows is here next to tell us what he think about dr.he pandemic after an announcement of publishing the new n book. the newly released e-mail they give us a bit of a rare look into the early days of the pandemic and how dr. fauci handled it. >> the nih was funding the research in the wuhan lab that was taking place, whether they knew it was gain-of-function research t or not is an open question but there's no question they were finding coronavirus...
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now, can meadows defend these as appropriate? no. when cnn asked about them he said i'll let you answer that. obviously i'm not going to comment on anything that may or may not have happened. it happened. he knows that we know it happened. and yet he plays it as a conditional. the truth is meaningless. when you are about fronting mere belief. this was a concerted effort to manipulate government institutions for trump's personal benefit, period. we also know that while trump was asking doj to help him cling it power. he was pressuring state officials in georgia. remember? to find him votes. >> all i want to do is this. i want to find 11,780 votes. which is one more than we have. because we won the state. >> just to be clear, georgia didn't oblige. remember he was told by a real republican that there was no fraud to fix. that's your problem. remember that. any doubt as to whether there was good faith basis was killed by rosen last month. here it is. >> there was no evidence presented of widespread fraud of a sufficient scale to over tu
now, can meadows defend these as appropriate? no. when cnn asked about them he said i'll let you answer that. obviously i'm not going to comment on anything that may or may not have happened. it happened. he knows that we know it happened. and yet he plays it as a conditional. the truth is meaningless. when you are about fronting mere belief. this was a concerted effort to manipulate government institutions for trump's personal benefit, period. we also know that while trump was asking doj to...
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fauci, president trump, mark meadows, all acknowledge that mistakes were made throughout the process.hey got more right than they got wrong. i think we're going to devote this amount of time to dr. fauci and to the pandemic, it ought to be on how do we prevent going forward that we don't face these kind of challenges. howie: let me come back to will. in the early e-mails fauci said he believes based on the evidence that most likely explanation was that covid came from an animal and not from the wuhan lab. he says he didn't rule it out. he says the same thing today and a he said he's keeping an open mind. maybe he's flat wrong. some on the right are accusing him of parroting chinese come mist propaganda, is that fair? >> it is fair. it's fair at the very least to explore with an open mind. harold could be right. this could be just a series of mistakes. it could be as i said that he's simply incompetent and keeps making mistakes. that could be the truth. dr. fauci isn't the neighborhood family physician. this is a man in charge of the highest levels of medicine not just in the united st
fauci, president trump, mark meadows, all acknowledge that mistakes were made throughout the process.hey got more right than they got wrong. i think we're going to devote this amount of time to dr. fauci and to the pandemic, it ought to be on how do we prevent going forward that we don't face these kind of challenges. howie: let me come back to will. in the early e-mails fauci said he believes based on the evidence that most likely explanation was that covid came from an animal and not from the...
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meadows to disavoi his own position on healthcare.hat's the messenger on this. >> harris: we've also talking about reporting but about the emails, too. there are details in there. i'm asking a straight-up question. >> let's talk about that. first off you say there is no media paying attention and then play a compilation of media talking about it. never been a shortage of stories about it. i think the president has taken the exact tone. he will go hands off on the d.o.j. if there is owing is there let it be brought to a case. clearly the d.o.j. under the former administration was willing to take on political chores like this and single out people for investigations or take on the president's defense when it came to rape accusation and things like that. if there was something specifically there the trump administration had at least a year of this found laptop that could have, would have, should have situation. >> harris: i saw what you did there. the media were joking about it. not the same thing as saying is there anything there and in
meadows to disavoi his own position on healthcare.hat's the messenger on this. >> harris: we've also talking about reporting but about the emails, too. there are details in there. i'm asking a straight-up question. >> let's talk about that. first off you say there is no media paying attention and then play a compilation of media talking about it. never been a shortage of stories about it. i think the president has taken the exact tone. he will go hands off on the d.o.j. if there is...
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meadows or the lone person at the justice department that was trying to essentially do their bidding? >> i think we have to probably learn even more about what happened. as you said, there was an individual who tried to, i guess, over throw jeff rosen when he was the acting attorney general over there because he refused to prosecute the complaint or the case that donald trump wanted him to make in throwing out the election. and so we need to learn more about that. and then i think we're probably going to have to take next steps after we learn further information. but certainly i personally feel that folks have to be held accountable and some of those folks, who knows. they may still be in government. >> i got to ask you this, congressman. in a previous decade,ed there be calls for a special council or a special prosecutor essentially to, you know, is this too much for the inspector general? i mean, it seems like what happened between say december 15th and january 15th between what happened between the white house and the justice department, is that something that we can use a special
meadows or the lone person at the justice department that was trying to essentially do their bidding? >> i think we have to probably learn even more about what happened. as you said, there was an individual who tried to, i guess, over throw jeff rosen when he was the acting attorney general over there because he refused to prosecute the complaint or the case that donald trump wanted him to make in throwing out the election. and so we need to learn more about that. and then i think we're...