cornell, the fairweather foundation, peter and mary kalikow, cliff and laurel asness, the meadowlark foundation, and by the following. corporate funding is provided by stephens inc. - philip howard and will marshall, welcome to hofstra university, and this episode of "firing line." - thank you. - listen, philip, in november, you called in the wall street journal for elon musk, not to hobble government, but to make it work again. since trump established the department of government efficiency, musk has moved to gut usaid, gained access to treasury payment systems, and has worked to eliminate the employment of tens of thousands of federal workers. you have spent your life thinking, and writing, and talking about how to make government work better. is this what you had in mind? - no. musk is focusing on cutting what government does that he thinks is stupid. he's not focusing on changing and improving how government works, which i think is the bigger opportunity. most of americans think government needs major overhaul. so musk is right, in my view, that it's broken, but he's not really focusing on