john mearsheimer, a west point graduate and former air force officer, is a professor and co- directorf the program on international security policy at the university of chicago. welcome, gentlemen, colonel mansoor, begin wuing, what are the lessons that we get or what do we learn from this trov of documents about the iraq war that we didn't know or fully appreciate before? >> i don't think the documents provide any new information if you have paid attention to the good reporting out of iraq. most of what's been revealed has been reported before but what the documents provide is a lot of the detailed granularity that was perhaps absent in sort of the general reporting from the theatre. >> warner: and prove ser mere shimenter what struck you? >> well, i agree with peter that what these documents are very good for is filling in the details. we had a rough understanding of what was going on in iraq and we had certain intuitions. for example i think most people felt that there was a good reason to think that iran was supporting the shi'a in iraq. but we didn't have a lot of hard evidence o

been lessons learn beed and they are being applied.pr >> warner: final word from you professor mearsheimerthere has been a change of strategy at least vis-a-vis the civilian, the civilians being put at risk. >> well, there are a couple of points to be made, margaret. first of all the american military has always been a firepower heavy military. and many of general s mcchrystal's support weregh complaining about the fact they weren't using enough firepower and i would bego willing to pet a lot of money that as the war goes on in afghanistan we use more and more firepower as a way of preserving american lives.mo and the end result is that more and more afghani civilians will die but even when we try to use force in a discriminating way, take the predator aircraft that we used, kilter rests fromnc the sky, all of the evidence is that we're killing about 10 civilians for every single quote, unquote,s terrorist that we kill. so what you see is that we're killing lots of terrorists and i bet five or six years from now or thec next thump of documents comes out from wikileaks we'll see much of wha