>> yes, all the pc boards have mebo, mebo. >> dornstein: huh. >> why this is scratched here, i don'tnow. >> dornstein: well, they say... >> but you can read "mebo," it's clear. >> dornstein: right. but i guess what they would say is that if the libyans were using your timers for terrorism, they wanted to scratch it out so no one would figure it out. >> i don't know, but, uh, that they scratched this. this is curious. >> dornstein: i mean, just your relationship with libya. you know, you gave them radio equipment, and you had a long relationship with them, and then suddenly, you find that your timers are showing up in the hands of, you know, libyan agents in togo or senegal, and they're using your timer for terrorist purposes. i mean, how did you feel about that? >> the feeling was not good. and so it's clear that we stop everything immediately with such things, with timers and commando cases. we have stopped everything. but i told also... >> dornstein: it wasn't clear to me when bollier says he stopped supplying electronics to libya, or why. and he still maintains that he was only ma