she is the author of "medgar and myrlie: medgar evers and the love story that awakened america." she is also a political analyst for msnbc. thank you. guest: host: remind us about medgar evers. guest: medgar evers was the rst field secretary for the naacp in mississippi. jordan was doing the same job in georgia. he was doing the same job in mississippi investigating the deaths and lynchings of black people and registering people to vote. host: you said you feel that medgar evers has been given a short shift in america's history. why do you think that happened? guest: if you think about the job he was doing, he was doing the kind of activism that dr. king was doing in alabama and that johnis was doing in georgia and he is doing it in mississippi which was the most dangerous place tothe highest n, the most violent version of the clan. agency called the sovereignty commission that went into action after brown v. they were under tremendous pressure even from the naacp which did not agree with activism in the streets. they wanted to fight in the courts. would face in that state was un

she is the author of "medgar and myrlie: medgar evers and the love story that awakened america." she is also a political analyst for msnbc. thank you. guest: great to be here. host: remind us about medgar evers. guest: medgar evers was the first field secretary for the naacp in mississippi. jordan was doing the same job in georgia. he was doing the same job in mississippi investigating the deaths and lynchings of black people and registering people to vote. host: you said you feel that medgar evers has been given a short shift in america's history. why do you think that happened? guest: if you think about the job he was doing, he was doing the kind of activism that dr. king was doing in alabama and that john lewis was doing in georgia and he is doing it in mississippi which was the most dangerous place to be black in america. the highest number of lynchings, the most violent version of the clan. and the statewide agency called the sovereignty commission that went into action after brown v. they were under tremendous pressure even from the naacp which did not agree with activism i

the newest book is medgar and myrlie and this is joy's old spot.ot. so, good to see you. >> ohings my goodness, it's great. and i love the way you rearranged the place. the furniture looks amazing. i love the so and love watching you ali. i am proud of you and i am just very grateful to have you as my friend. >> thank you. and you and i had one chance to talk about this book some time ago, but i want to get into it more with you. the medgar and myrlie story it's important because they are both civil rights leaders. they were both budding heads and it's typical in the civil right move to but hits but the tension was how it would end. myrlie was clear the road med ger was going down and other leaders felt the same way, was dangerous. and was going to get him killed. and tell me about that tension between them. >> well, absolutely. first i want to acknowledge today actually is myrlie evers williams 91st birthday. happy birthday to her. 91 years young and feisty and in the fight. so honor to her. the fights were interesting. because for myrlie she was

that is what medgar evers did .-- married to people with myrlie evers raised with inherent dignity. even a person with no money or indoor plumbing growing up, she was given this dignity. she played the piano and was told you can play a chronically hall -- kerr-mcgee hall. you have dignified people, who even though the country did not love them back, they loved enough to try to make it what it says it is. >> something that stuck with me joy was how myrlie is the paragon of persistence and perseverance. three separate trials to achieve justice in 1994 for the man that murdered her love of her life, medgar evers . talk briefly about what it meant to meet myrlie and interact with her to know what that woman has gone through. she did not shelve her grief, she made it and converted it into activism. >> you know is a lawyer my sister it is hard to win one trial. this with three different trials. two hung juries and 30 years later, a conviction of man that assassinated medgar evers. it was a triumph from the legal point of

she is the author of "medgar and myrlie: medgar evers and the love story that awakened america." she is also a political analyst for msnbc. thank you. guest:

she is the author of "medgar and myrlie: medgar evers and the love story that awakened america."

it's called "medgar & myrlie."civil rights activists. saturday, april 6th, joy reid and i are going to do a live event about the book at the apollo theater in new york city. i'm so looking forward to this. if you want tickets, you can find out how to get them at msnbc.com/medgar and myrlie. the link right there on your screen. also i should tell you tomorrow i'll be on joy's show with her tomorrow at 7:00 p.m., the reidout." that does it for us for now. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. >>> do you ever accept money from a foreign government to pay your bonds or fines? >> no, i don't do that. i think you'd be allowed to possibly. i don't know. if you know borrow from a b

it's called medgar&myrlie. saturday, april 6th, joy reid and i are going to do an episode about the book. i am so looking forward to this. if you want tickets, you can find out how to get them at msnbc.com/medgar and pheurly. 7:00 p.m. here to discuss many things, including tomorrow's supreme court arguments on the big aportion case. that does it for us for now. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> good evening. rachel and joy at the apollo. it was bound to happen. i shouldn't seem surprised at all. rachel, remember several weeks ago, when you were really sick, and you managed to come into the studio and anchor one of our primary night coverages? and i'm -- i'm -- i'm not as sick as that tonight. >> oh, no. >> you about i'm -- i'm much more of a cry baby. so for me, it's worse than a good soldier like you. and you know, if this was any other day, this would have been a sick day. but after watching "meet the press" yesterday, i thought, i have to come in. i have a few things i have to s

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here, own insurance companies, to be insurance salesmen, a little young insurance salesman named medgar evers. he since mamie till up to chicago to talk to one of his old insurance brokers. his name was reverend franklin revenge for aretha franklin's father. so it's almost like all the black people in the civil rights history in history are connected somehow. the tree. howard so as he has a real house sized impact, a when you consider we don't really know. mm we don't really bring up his name lot jason go one more. so i like to know your perspective on the 13th amendment because our to fight is really to our freedom and. it's like that's like the dirty little amendment that keeps getting passed along as a way of being able to have law to control people or propagate slavery. so the except this punishment for a crime is what you're talking, but you to the thing about the 13th amendment, as it relates also to the civil rights act of 1960. well, so it relates to the civil rights act of 19. so the thing about the 13th amendment was like the black people who proposed the end of slavery had pr

if you want tickets, you can find out how to get them at msnbc.com/medgar and myrlie. the link right there on your screen. also i should tell you tomorrow i'll be on joy's show with her tomorrow at 7:00 p.m., the reidout." that does it for us for now. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. >>> do you ever accept money from a foreign government to pay your bonds or fines? >> no, i don't do that. i think you'd be allowed to possibly. i don't know. if you know borrow from a big bank, many of the banks outside of this -- as you know the biggest banks, frankly, are outside of your country, so you could do that. but i don't need to borrow money. i built a great company. >> that's donald trump pressed yesterday whether he would accept foreign money to cover his civil fraud bond. those comments came after a substantial day legally for the former president. we'll go throughological of it in just a moment. >>> also ahead it appears that one of the house republicans leading the impeachment inquiry into president biden is ready to move on from the months-long effort. plu

it is called medgar and myrlie. joy read and i will do a live event about the book in the apollo theater in new york city. i am so looking forward to this. if you want tickets, you can find out how to get them at msnbc.com. the link right there on your screen. i should tell you tomorrow, i will be on her show with her at 7:00 p.m. eastern here tomorrow night on msnbc to discuss many things, including thomas supreme court arguments on the big abortion case. that does it for us for now. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> it was bound to happen. i shouldn't seem surprised at all. remember several weeks ago when you were really sick, and you managed to come in the studio and anger one of our primary night coverages. i am not as sick as that tonight. but i am much more of a crybaby. for me, it is worse. if this was any other day, this would have been a sick day. but after watching meet the press yesterday, i said, there are is -- are couple of things i need to say about that. >> i just have a co

it is called medgar and myrlie. joy read and i will do a live event

it's to be medgar down in mississippi fighting jim crow, segregation. it's going to be the leadership of black officers and veterans, world war one, who are going to push back against the racial violence that happens during red summer, because oftentimes when we talk about red summer, it's only, you know, from the perspective of being killed. but in chicago, that wasn't the case because they had veterans setting up snipers, men picket. folks are. how in any who but thinking about the importance of military training and this is one of the reasons why you have that consistency of african-americans because the use of military training to defend their communities, their families is crucial because guess what they couldn't do during slavery. so now they can have guns and they had them and now they do fight back. and they did so, for example, the tulsa massacre right. how many of you watched the watchmen love show, right? it begins, unfortunately, with it. well, fortunately begins with the tulsa massacre and for the first minute when that show aired, apparent