are not a lot of black males that come or brown males that come to medgar evers. and from that perspective, i said, "okay, president crew has this concept of how we recruit and we retain students," but i needed to focus on black males. >> yeah, you want to -- it sounds like you want to figure out a way to let more of these young men know that there is something here for them and there is something else for you. so you're trying to figure out how to get them interested and get them interested enough to stay. >> yes, ma'am. another purpose, which is a degree, which now leads to a better job. >> now, you're a senior, joshua, right? >> and i understand -- you know, i was reading your r\sum\, and really impressive. >> thank you. >> just the things that are important to you, the time you spend outside of your studies, focusing on other young men. you're a mentor, i understand. >> that is correct. >> but at one point, you thought about dropping out? did i read that correctly? >> something like that. um, i didn't -- i didn't think that medgar was for me at one point in ti