the pro media initially ignored the story.howed a documentary on penguins in ants arc at this carafer than the news down the street . thithis is a i about corruption. like the ruling a.k.p. they are based on islamic alis and were allies but have since fallen out and most of the police and prosecutors investigating the scandal who have been percentages are members. in an e-mail to "the listening post." the prime minister's chief adviser called it a state within a state that uses the power of the state against whomever it considered to be its rifle or enemy . >> it's the biggest one with a big media prior, several ngos, school charities. not just in turkey, but across the world. however, the controversy is less based on the gulam movement, schools, institutions, society, but it is more based on the members of the gulam movement within the police and judiciary. >> translator: but it was the government who originally appointed them to those positions. so the argument by the prime minister that there is a state within a state, is n

between conventional media and social media because i have the impression that social media is now leading conventional media well you only have to look at the newspaper certainly here in london and you'll see very very often the case that people are or news media is following the agenda set by trends that are emerging from. platforms like twitter. now whether that's the most relevant news to the individuals threats for me the bigger question of what's happening with me because news has traditionally been occurring the lowest skews very low a lowest common denominator. or way of reporting the facts of the world i think what social media are unable to is to really focus on many issues of interest that we care about and therefore what becomes our standard of news varies depending on what we're interested in who we're connected to so i think whilst mainstream media is still in this game of what are most people talking about there's this long term effect coronado's we're. actually the majority of people are doing which is talking about things that are on the mainstream news agenda and they are

but let me go back to the issue of the media. there may be pecular skepticism but al qaeda suspect selling any cars either, despite a communications campaign aimed at radicalizing home grown terrorists, inspiring terrorist attacks in this country, they may have created a virtual army, but thus far it remains virtual. we have no evidence offully deep reservoirs of support -- of any deep reservoirs of support for al qaeda. the campaign has gained absolutely no traction among american muslims. the numbers of individuals who have been arrested for providing material support or more seriously plotting terrorist attacks in this country on behalf of this ideology is just a tiny -- a tiny turnout. >> i'm going ohave to pause you there brian because we are unfortunately out of time. thanks to all of our guests, david, brian and shahid. until next time waj and i will see you online. >> announcer: this is al jazeera. ♪ >>> welcome to the news hour, live from doha, coming up on the program, still talking, the syrian government and opposition

m, breast cancer social media.elcome everywhere. >> we see people ageing the passing the others on social media. why are we seeing more discussion about the process and terminal illness and death now marathon ever on social media. >> thank you for talking about it in the show. i appreciate it. i don't think we knew what our great grandparents knew. we don't know how to talk about it. we live in a world where the dead go around in white unmarked bands. we are looking for the town square. social media is the new up to square. >> i was going to say, what is it about american culture. you said the grant parents had it different. what makes it tough to talk about things. >> we have become so youth oryetted. death is ogsal. there's something primal in us that grief must be witnessed. we want our life witnessed and death. >> you decided to do a series called "my last days", why did you do that? >> we were looking around and we tend to procraftinate with everything, especially my generation. i didn't think we should procra

i do not consider the mainstream media, or what some people call the legacy media, i do not consider the enemy. i do believe, however, that we are in a mixed of a pathological media culture. at some of the ideas that i will share with you today will allow us to identify some of those topologies and ultimately find a way out of the topology and provide a hope for the future, as you can see here. in a few words if you would allow me personal privilege about world news group. we are the largest christian news organization in the country. we have world magazine, which has about 400,000 readers. we also have a robust presence on the internet. about 500,000 to 600,000 unique visitors a month that are added over 2 million views. two years ago we started a radio program called the world and everything in it and it is a two-hour we can program and a 30 minute daily program. for those of you who are listening to things on christian radio and you're used to it, you will discover that it is unlike anything else that is on christian radio and sounds much more like national public radio than it do

i did not in any way, shape, or form consider the mainstream media or what people call the legacy media as the enemy. but i do believe clear in the midst of a pathological media culture. some of the ideas i share today i hope will allow us to identify some of those and ultimately find a way out of that pathology as a hope for the future. first, a few words, the largest christian news organization in the country we have a magazine that has 400,000 readers and also a robust presence on the internet between 500,000 and 600,000 visitors per month and 2 million page views. we also started a radio program called the world and everything in its. aid to our weekend program and a 30 minute daily program of you were used to listening things on christian radio you will discover his is not anything like what is on christian radio is sounds much more earthquake national public radio they and what you would hear. the co-host's have been doing an excellent job. after the first of the year we will start a new 30 minutes interview program that i will host that is not patterned on anything after christia

i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. chris christie, in case you hadn't noticed is a hot topic for the media. how does his coverage over the bridge scandal compare to that of other gubernatorial types? let's take a look. >> in terms of the politics for this, this whole argument from christie, true or false, is getting harder to believe. is everybody a liar but him? >> it reminds me of what people on the far right did on benghazi the second after the benghazi attack. and it became this rallying cry for the right, just like it's chris christie bridge scandal has been for the left. >> well, what about new york's democratic governor andrew cuomo who got into trouble for saying this? >> and if they are the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of new york. >> so this -- >> because that's not who new yorkers are. >> that's gotten plenty of coverage on fox, but barely been mentioned by msnbc or cnn or the "new york times." >> andrew cuomo's shocking comments about extreme conservatives like those who oppose abo

>> old media needs new media stars and brands. just because someone is worth millions of dollars to the "wall street journal" or to "the washington post" it doesn't mean they can create a multimillion-dollar cop on their own. i've seen this over and over again, "trek crunch" by company at "business week" i've lived it myself. you can't confuse yourself with the platform. the best journalist with the best brand the magic is them plus a platform and when you break that magic up, sometimes it turns into a bigger business, and sometimes it doesn't. but the main thing i think journalists underestimate is time. it takes five to ten years to build a big media company. i don't a care if you're jesus christ with 8 million twitter followers. >> there's the sound bite everybody is going to use. for example, blogger andrew sullivanwent out on his own and asked his readers to give him money, raised wiabout $800,000 e first year. nate silver's blog became a big traffic driver of the "new york times," he went to espn and glenn greenwald leaving

>> old media needs new media starts and needs brands. because someone is worth millions to the "wall street journal" or to the "washington post" doesn't mean they can create a multimillion dollar company on their own. i have seen it over and over again whether it is my country, at business week, i have lived it myself you cannot confuse yourself with the platform. the best journalists with the best brand, the magic is them plus a platform, and when you break it ups sometimes it turns into a bigger business and sometimes it doesn't. what journalists underestimate is time, it takes 5 to 10 years to build a media economy, i don't care if you are jesus christ with eight million twitter followers. >> there is the soundbite. andrew sullivan want on his own and asked the readers to give him money and raised $800,000 the first year but silver became such a big traffic driver at not that went to espn and a new media venture funded by the founder of ebay, are there a lot of rich guy whose want to invest in media. >> thank god. back in the days of

the beltway media loves.t least veneer of authenticity, straight, blunt talk. it was crucial it to the rise of john mccain many years ago. this sense he's telling it like it is. his critics will say that's phony and stylistic but i think that's part of it. the other thing is he does sometimes unexpected political things like when he sort of chummy with president obama late in the election campaign in 2012, after hurricane sandy, he was infuriating a lot of republicans and let's face it, there's no denying nat media loves it when a politician kind of breaks ranks with their party and there's bipartisanship and a man bites dog story like that. i think he's benefited from that. i think now the table is turning a little bit. little blood in the water and may be a sense on the part of some reporters they need to overcompensation. >> i was struck how he was calling on so many reporters by their first names. let's roll the clip of that. >> david, kelly, michael, angie, marcia, john, beck, charlie, melissa, terry, ph

the media is bored with him for good reasons and bad.n is the last time anyone listened to barack obama give a speech like they did chris christie, i think the reasons they're interested in hillary -- >> quite a speech on nsa reform got a fair amount of media attention. but basically the media are tuning out of the last three years of the obama administration and that helps explain the focus on hillary rodham clinton. what are your thoughts? >> if you talk to the obama people, they would love for the media to tune out. they would love to stop talking about obama care's failures and to start talking about it's successes. but benghazi, most of the country doesn't consider it to be a story. conservatives do, but most of the country doesn't. i think on hillary, yeah, we all agree it's sexist and it's cliche, the way they're treated. about this woman who's risen to an amazing height. this media does that to women. >> if a woman was hanging on to a man's wing tip, there would be an explosion. >> still to come, michelle obama turns 50 and the m

one thing that i can't, you know, social media is not going anywhere.ou know, we are only just in the beginning stage of this kind of technology in our lives. and i think the more humanely we weave it into what we experience in a natural way, in a way that doesn't feel forced n a way that is an extension of our personality, then worries about taboo and about death and etiquette and questions like that will cease to be relevant. >> reporter: you know, i think unless you have experienced a virtual hug in the midst of a crisis, you probably don't understand it. but i have been fortunate enough to experience that, the very day we received bad news and as i shared that with my friends and they all the weeks and weeks virtual hugs everyday and that's wonderful. >> yeah. >> it is wonderful. and there is nothing superficial about the connections that people make in what i call a disease community or an illness community. in fact, you will find that when we meet each other in person, the getting to know you process is actually accelerated. i have very rarely con

the grownup media, forget mainstream media, the grown up media, we are always late if teen idols anding too big a deal about teen idols who are so 18 months ago. justin bieber is not the guy of four years ago. the concert film did not do well. are we pumping him purpose bigger than he would be? >> you call the grown up media, but it feels increasingly ought less -- adolescent. farmer: hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer. and our giant idaho potato truck is still missing. so my dog and i we're going to go find it. it's out there somewhere spreading the good word about idaho potatoes and raising money for meals on wheels. but we'd really like our truck back, so if you see it, let us know, would you? thanks. what? >>> in our media fail, bill simmons,ed coe >> and we have gotten a world-class apology for profile ing about a member of the transgender community. she was widely denounced. we never asked anyone knowledgeable enough about the issues to help us improve the piece or to realize we should not run it and that is our mistake and my mistake because it is my site. i apologize. i failed

media as the enemy. i do believe, however, that we are in the midst of a sort of a pathological media culture and that some of the ideas i'm going to share with you today, i hope, will allow us to identify some of those pathologies and then, ultimately perhaps, even to find a way out of that pathology and provide a hope for the future as you can see here. first, a few words, if you'll allow me a point of personal privilege, about world news group. we're the largest christian news organization in the country. we have world magazine which has about 400,000 ratedders. we come out 26 -- readers, we come out 26 times a year. we also have a robust following on the internet. beginning about two years ago, we also started a radio program called the world and everything in it. it's a two-hour weekend program and a 30-minute daily program. for those of you who are used to listening to things on christian radio, you will discover that it is not anything like what is on christian radio. it sounds much more like nati

how bad have things grown for the media in egypt? even this puppet is accused of dealing in muslim brotherhood propaganda. daggers drawn in turkey between the prime minister and journalists trying to get to the bottom of a political scandal. imagery and the career ending implications for proceed if he wassal photo journal accidents. -- journalists. when egypt's military-backed government designated the miss lim brotherhood a terrorist organization last month, it broad ended the authority to move against the group. the decree also has serious implications for journalists because now, covering the muslim brotherhood has become a minefield for the media. this channel has come under increased pressure with three al jazeera journalists in detention accused of communicating with members of a terrorist organization and spreading lies harmful to the state. they join two of their colleagues from al jazeera's arabic news channels who are also behind bars. al jazeera's network of channels has been accused of failing to report the story in a bal

and social media because i have the impression that social media is now leading conventional media well you only have to look at the newspapers certainly here in london you'll see that it is very often the case that people are the news media is following the agenda set by trends that are emerging from. platforms like twitter. now whether that's the most relevant news to the individual's thoughts for me the bigger question of what's happening with me because news has traditionally been a kind of lower storm skews very low a lowest common denominator. a way of reporting the facts of the world i think what social media are unable to see is to really focus on a major issues of interest that we care about and therefore what becomes our standard of news varies depending on what we're interested in who we're connected to so i think whilst mainstream media is still in this game of what are most people to.

failures and media dilemmas.g pieces online but the pieces are shooter. author. >> it seems less ambitious. >> i disagree. the old model was, we knew how to do it. it was a formula that was used, longer stories done by proposals edited by professionals and if you can --. >> what is wrong with that? >> there is nothing wrong with that. we are a state university with an educational must and the magazine is owned by the maryland college of journalism and the funding wasn't going to be there and it wasn't sustainable. rather than let the valuable property just fly off into the sunset, we decided, what do we have here? we have an opportunity. journalism education is about having your students doing journalism the moment they walk in the door and we have brought the magazine into the curriculum. we use our experienced outstanding faculty. >> but that speaks to the phrase, "business model," with all the students who can contribute to american journalism review, you don't have to pay them. >> we can pay some of our contr

media is covering justin bieber.s the oldest trick in the book. that's exactly what anchors do when they want the celebrity ratings but they think it will tarnish their images to do the story." and i hear us, dorsey, i hear us saying it's not awful that they're covering justin bieber but it's about the amount, it's about the proportion. >> right. and i've criticized cnn about coverage like going way over the top with like the cruise ship, the poop ship. >> watch out. there's another cruise ship out there now that's having trouble near puerto rico. >> i've been seeing teases for that. and that was kind of overkill. you know. and if you want to look back at the first day that the christie story broke, the bridge story, i mean, it was almost double -- i mean more than double the amount of time cnn and nbc covered that story compared to the bieber story. >> dorsey, you live in the internet. i feel like i see you tweeting every day. i want to put up a few memes on story. what was amazing was how fast these funny pictures

because if you look at the media in the 19th century, the media is doing exactly what we're doing now. it's all salacious details and crime, and sex scandals. and the people in jfk were in this time in the media, where people had a monopoly or near monopoly and they said we're not going to talk about that. and the elites didn't like it. but what the people the -- you know, news for a lot of us, i want to know if i'm in danger, and i want to gossip about people that i know. that's why celebrity magazines sell so much and we do take that on our polygs, but these are also legitimate questions of character. if a politician abandoned his wife, we wouldn't say that's something private between the two of them. >> well, not everyone is captivated by sex scandals. in europe, there are people who think cheating politicians are no big deal. why is that? but may be surprised by the answer, next. >> welcome back. we have been talking about the public's endless fascination with political sex scandals. and before the break, i mentioned how europe is more accepting of infamous politicians, and nothin

but independent media have gone to town on it. and i would say that it brings us to another problem and in the media this year which is the ownership problem that the washington post has now all by the amazon. and jesse company amazon has wanted six hundred million dollar contract which will provide cloud computing. cloud services and if you're a reporter at the washington post in your piece was the cia and you know that your owner has a financial relationship with the cia. it would make me a little abigail trafford a should about reporting that story but a long winded answer yes i think the surveillance state was the biggest. the biggest issue this year and i think you can't really trust mainstream media on the growth of the surveillance state the subset of that that i would argue really should be the front and center part of that what you just identified for example. the cia has privatized their data some of their data collection to amazon edward snowden is rarely cross identified as the employees of a privatized if of a private

. >> and media buzz with howard kurtz on the media, destructing it, contracting it, howard, up now. >> take it, howie. >> on the buzz beater this sunday, a war of words breaks out on chris chris christie's office and msnbc over the scandal that's enveloped the governor which took a turn as new jersey mayor accused christie's folks of pressuring for a real estate deal in exchange for hurricane sandy relief aid. it christie has called msnbc a partisan angle. >> new jersey chris christie giving an explanation today for that traffic. >> for the second time in a week, governor chris christie faces a ticking clock. each second takes him closer to the moment when those he has blamed for this bridge scandal testify under oath. >> the bully label may not stick to new jersey governor chris christie even after revelations of the bridge scandal surfaced last week. >> is the coverage of christie approaching overkill? >>> and what about hillary on the cover of "time." are you media treating her better. >>> michelle obama turns 50. and the pundits get out the party hats and celebrate. have they gott

>> is it the media's job to be part of the party? >> no, absolutely not.nd that's what i'm saying. there are country tooen technique toes be made and they rarely get made. it's almost like a princess diana phenom with michelle obama. >> the only -- she gave during this period was the one with "people" magazine. >> we push all the time for access from the white house. >> you used to cover the white house. >> and i covered the eat wing, too, which is a real pressure cooker. here, the white house gives no access except to "people" magazine. where is the incentive for us to provide us with interviews? we undermine our own message here. >> michelle obama is a role model because she's the first avenue can american in that post. i don't remember laura bush getting anything like this coverage when she turned 60. when hillary was in the white house, she turned 50 and she was on the cover of "time." i think michelle obama brings eyeballs. i think if laura bush or hillary clinton brought eyeballs, they would have gotten the same attention. michelle obama is a pop cul

i think part of it is social media. people get rewarded on social media, twitter, largely duped for saying things really controversial. the problem with saying something that's controversial is that you're only a couple of tweets away from it being perceived as being retweeted about or something that's so offensive you risk losing your jobs. >> what do you think about this culture or problem? is it a cultural problem? >> i have a hard time saying it's a cultural problem because i know a lot of really nice people out there and a lot of nice people on twitter. >> in the media. >> and i meant that. i meant there are a lot of people like take stewart stevens, when was mitt romney's chief strategist. when this happened, he tweeted to melissa harris-perry saying to her, hey, everybody makes mistakes and i think we can learn from our mistakes. that was very tolerant. but when you get this mob mentality on twitter, and especially among the young, sometimes snarky journalists who make their living in trashing other people, that'

if you look at the media, the media is doing what we are doing now. it's sal ashes detail and crime and adultery and sex scandal. the people covering up were in this very unique time, where every media outlet had a monopoly or a new monopoly. that was a decision that people who didn't have to compete for advertising dollars or readers made the - the eleets didn't like it. what the people want, news for a lot of us is about primitive instincts. "i want to know if i'm in danger and i want to gossip about people i don't know." that's why celebrity magazines sell. these are legitimate questions of character. if a politician abandoned his wife when she was sick, that's something private between the two of them. >> sometimes we go too far. if you didn't do anything illegal, conflict of interest, i don't care. we have an obsession with sex lives. we focus on sex scandaling. actual knews is too boring. not everyone is captivated by sex scandals. in europe, cheating politicians are no big deal. why is that. you may be surprised by the answers next. >> and now

the media has been very weak. i have been very critical of the media. i think that the mainstream media has largely left this whole issue go unreported. --se pieces were going on they came out once from the new york times. then it was forgotten. the mainstream media pretty much never went after this issue. -- i think that the if this was the bush administration, the media would be far more aggressive on this issue. the only reason you have the washington post reporting on this and the new york times was because of snowden. snowden made the leak. before this, the washington post was not doing that much aggressive work on what the nsa was doing in terms of mastic you striving. media hask that the not been up to snuff on the whole issue. it would have been if the bush administration was in power. host: one must call in for you. gavin is waiting on the lines for republicans. caller: hi, james. thank you for coming on. paint a is, i want to scenario and get your comment. is there any chance that you that ourk -- think created these terrorists and radicals? g

but it's is there. >> it has ruined the media market in israel. it's widely distributed, it's free, and more than that, it sales advertising at very low prices flooding the market, further reducing the profitability of other newspapers. in. >> the distinct political, the day after barack obama was re-elected, one op-ed declared the u.s. chose socialism. over the past couple of months it has produced headlines, iran has become all but nazi, we contacted the newspaper to ask about their journalism but no one was made available to comment. the paper is owned by american billionaire and benjamin netanyahu supporter sheldon adelson, whom americans got to know when he speedy $150 million in trying to get republicans elected. since 2007 he has been putting his money into a newspaper, and by extension politics in israel. as an alternative, it's huge market shared captured means that the paper goes out to the israeli public. that's what sheldon adelson wants. he's not necessarily in it for the money. >> sheldon loses money, and lots of it. my estimate is t

local media, tonight. another thing to focus on is how culture is so important in any organization, along with these notions of core purpose and core values along the built to last theme, the notion of transparency, honesty, and integrity in reporting. values that transcend the strategic and tactical changes that occur in media on a regular basis. those are lasting values. there was a great piece in "the new york times" a couple of weeks ago, october 26, that talked about values that do not go out of style. one of the things we are focused on as a company is ethical decision-making in the digital world. then and i will chat about at a little bit. i think it is terribly important. this has been a time of disruption. review this time of disruption as one of opportunity. the hearst name, randolph hearst was always a gentleman who believed in innovation. we have tried to be gentleman in the things we have done and things we have associated ourselves with, which often means taking risks. risks are a good part o

media habits clearly differ. we didn't show you all our findings, but fox and talk radio it's clear. but at the end, in the month of october at least in 2012 when it came to posts on twitter, the posters for the tea party, the gop -- the people that hash tagged those tea party and gop, they rallied around their candidate. and as i heard earlier, maybe more significantly they rallied against the opposition. and so that's what we show here. divided in some ways, but the rally effect at the end is still there. thank you. >> okay, thank you. next we'll have william miller from flagler college and michael john burton from ohio university who will discuss who needs enemies? the tea party impact on the republican party. >> thanks. and i also want to echo peter and say that it's great to be back at akron, and we always appreciate the state of the parties conference and the opportunity to talk about these issues. i think it's interesting to point out on this panel especially that if we go back to the 2009 state of the par

we're not all hung up on old media versus new media. it's all media. it's all journalism.well and some poorly. there are terrible newspapers and terrible websites and great websites. so it's all blurring. that's one really important point. the other thing and it's pretty obvious is if this were 100 years ago, it would be hard to start a new newspaper. 50 years ago it would be hard to start a new television network if you were just a journalist. digital, yes, we did have to raise money. we have great investors, one of hoom is nbc news and so we had to raise money. not like you can do it for no money. it's a lot lower barrier to entry to start your own thing as a journalist than at any time in history. >> and what's it been like to be out raising money? you have been report on these people for decades? >> it's a great question. it's really kind of a little bit of a surreal experience. i will say we had dozens of inquiries from people who figured our contract with dow jones was going to run out and it was very nice to have people say you're great and here's some money. or we

obvious thes media is biased.hey never ask for a prosecutor hillary clinton as to why the security at our foreign embassy was in adequate and it led to the deaths of these for americans. you: as far as the way monitor media is that national channels you watch or local channels? i am interested in how your state -- those local outlets -- how they have handled this. caller: it is most of it except for fox. the newspapers have been outrageous. it is obviously biased because they will concentrate on this for their axe to grind. host: a panel on election reform released its recommendations to improve the voting process. little bit of their recommendations. they say the panel identified proposals to make voting smoother. the commission said there is also a looming crisis. voting machines purchased in 2003 are nearing the end of life."shelf marianne, augusta, georgia. democrats line. i think the media has been fair. sells.e information i am concerned about the facts. we need to know facts. ishas been said that kristi a b

how we perceive media.nyone with a smartphone is cable of reporting on a situation. what i hope comes along with it are more news organizations doing the really important job of sifting through that noise for the signal and that's going to be more important than ever because i think everyone is a reporter today. >> that was alexis ohanian, co-founder of reddit. alexis did share where us one of the things he did, coding. salman khan, co-founder of khan academy, believes an education should be available to anyone, any at no cost. anywhere at no cost. >> back in 2004 i was an analyst in a government investment firm, my cousin and her family were being, visiting from new orleans where i grew up. i was tutoring her with math. i started working her every day after work for me, after school for her. it kind of worked out. she went to going better in math, getting caught up, i started working with her younger brothers. a couple of things happened, two years go by, word gets around, free tutoring going and, i found

local media, tonight. another thing to focus on is how culture is so important in any organization, along with these notions of core purpose and core values along the built to last theme, the notion of transparency, honesty, and integrity in reporting. values that transcend the strategic and tactical changes that occur in media on a regular basis. those are lasting values. there was a great piece in "the new york times" a couple of weeks ago, october 26, that talked about values that do not go out of style. one of the things we are focused on as a company is ethical decision-making in the digital world. then and i will chat about at a little bit. i think it is terribly important. this has been a time of disruption. review this time of disruption as one of opportunity. the hearst name, randolph hearst was always a gentleman who believed in innovation. we have tried to be gentleman in the things we have done and things we have associated ourselves with, which often means taking risks. risks are a good part o

youngsters it's only the media will make attention on the story of my story i have been in the world. by your side. guys russia china japan the middle east b.b.c. and continue sowing on so this appeals of their make in the media that i was looking for my missing some it's reached them on the field in syria and today there is white smoke i succeeded in my third mission to bring my son back to safety in the good hills not radicalize. us back safe to go. but what i want to say in this story is that it's a scandal that european governments especially my own government belgian government is doing nothing there's no respect there's no sign of that for parents to bring youngsters back from syria but i also want to say hey listen i shouldn't say so let's just end up so so they always something they're doing this belgian government is that talking always right to be got to do if they sense a return maybe they are they just for the subsidy well i can confirm that this is not only. something discussion that talking about my son is not radicalizes not trying with his eyes all these journalists fr

and more so from the media perspective, a lot of the web-based media reports on the campaign really just pushed our website as well as our video. so, we've been tracking it a lot more. we've been looking at the significant increase in uptick and we're still evaluating the effectiveness of the paid additional push from both facebook and twitter. and in some campaigns it makes sense given who our overall -- our subscribers are. in some campaigns we haven't tried it just yet. >> does this city -- other departments must have this identical problem where they are trying to do outreach and, you know, there's regulations coming in which they want people to comply with. they want people who aren't complying with them to be kind of called out by other people. is there kind of any resources the city has to sort of health departments think through outreach on social media or otherwise or is it kind of every department on their own? >> two things. one, the resources the city has, they really are counterparts in other departments. we periodically come together on a once a month basis and share a lot