so premium support instead of privatizing medicare, and structural medicare reform instead of raising the eligibility age. now, remember the context for all this. this is important. remember that phrase we first started hearing at the start of the health reform debate, which may be apocryphal, "keep government hands off my medicare." the big tea party uprising was in large part a reaction to the idea, quote/unquote, of socialized medicine. it was the affordable care act, and the government, quote, takeover of health care, that fanned the flames of the post-obama tea party protest. but, of course, most of the actual republicans who were actually elected back then were elected because they ran ads like this. >> congressman brad ellsworth said he would protect our seniors. but when he got to washington, congressman ellsworth voted for the largest cuts in medicare history, over $500 billion. robin carnahan supports $500 billion in medicare cuts, hurting seniors most. rand paul doesn't support higher medicare deductibles for seniors. conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support f

i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. >> look,e guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party's not big on medicare from the beginning. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> so, now, of course, given all the campaign rhetoric coming from both sides, we are on the other side of an election that proved that there is a bipartisan consensus, that it is bad to be the kind of politician that supports cutting medicare. and even giving that very recent lesson from the election, we are entering a negotiation period where everyone in washington is trying to figure out how best to cut medicare. it is pretty weird. and that is not to say that there are not better and worse ways of cutting medicare. the white house is proposing in its opening offer, cuts of $400 billion to medicare and other social insurance programs, $40 billion a year. the president's plan would achieve those cuts mostly through tweaks in the way payments are made to drug companies and health care providers. john boehner,ç on the oth

not reduced costs for medicare. so that is an thash will continue to have to deal with. what we really need to consider is how can implement if we want toism ployment them in a way that recognizes most individuals can work after the age of 65 although there's an increase in the number of people who are experiencing disability and therefore would not be able to work. one is to have a differential allowed so people who are not able to work because of disability would qualify for medicare as it exists now, to some extheant already would exist by default because of the ssi provisions that allow for people to go on to medicare as a result of disability. there's a interesting concept talking about wrornt raising the age of elt jinlt to spond to lifetime wealth. the idea is to say people who had higher lifetime wealth would be expected to join medicare and perhaps social security at older ages than people who have had low amounts of lifetime wealth for whatever reasons. the issue, really, with is to recognize that the stre

, including the medicare part b. premium, and premiums for supplemental coverage they may have had, and the out of pocket out of pocket cost of medicare coverage services. didn't expect agreement agreement on sharing other under sources in love medicare. our analysis shows that about two-thirds are estimated to are estimated today, two-thirds of the 5 million cameras there to pay more as a result of shifting from medicare to another source of coverage. on average, about $2200 more. and one-third are estimated to pay less under their new source of coverage than they would have paid out of pocket under medicare. on average, about $2300 more. the one-third who are projected to of lower out of pocket spending include people who would qualify for the medicaid expansion, and those with relatively low incomes who would qualify for a more generous subsidies through the exchanges. the group that we estimate that would pay the most distant as the 860,000 new medicaid enrollees, those with incomes below 133% of poverty. but two

medicare solvent. the problem is that under the current system seniors and parties that want to settle a claim often cannot determine how much they owe medicare. that often results in the settlements to collapse. the result is that seniors are denied settlements to compensate for their injuries, the medicare trust fund is never reimbursed, that's bad for seniors, it's bad for the medicare program. we're talking about cases where seniors are trying to give money back to the government and the government simply won't say how much they owe it. it's outrageous that seniors can't even give money back to medicare that the government is owed because the system is broken down. at a time when congress is considering cuts to the medicare benefits and provider payments, we need to at least make sure medicare is getting the money seniors want to send it. the smart act will improve the medicare secondary payment system by making the government work more efficiently, reducing unnecessary burdens and waste, speeding

advantage program where medicare pays h.m.o.'s and insurance companies to provide medicare services for eighteen percent on average more than it costs just to get it directly from the government itself so that corporate charity and the other is the fact that the republicans have consistently refused to allow medicare or the government to negotiate with drug companies so we pay retail we whatever they want to charge us we pay and that's costing us a fortune. and what i'm missing one of the four secrets well you know don't put me on the spot here but i thought. one was over treatment and i mentioned that very briefly that will you know they used talk of death panels to scare everybody but the fact is there have been terrific studies to show for example that the number of heart surgeries in different counties in new england was driven not by the health of the patient but by the number of heart surgeons cardiac surgeons there were in that county so and that's for a lot of reasons including the hospitals driving them to do it the hosp

, not reduce cost for medicare. so that is an issue that will continue to have to deal with. what we really need to consider is how can we implement if we want to implement such programs in a way that recognizes most individuals can work after the age of 65 although there is an increase in the number of people better experiencing the disability and therefore would not be able to work. one is to have a differential allowed so that people who are not able to work because of the disability would qualify for medicare as it exists now. to some extent that already exist by default as the provisions that allow for people to want to medicare as a result of the disability. there's another interesting concept that was raised talking about whether or not raising the age of eligibility to course was to lifetime wealth is something dhaka to be explored, and the idea there is to see that people who have had higher lifetime of wealth would be expected to join medicare and perhaps social security and older ages than people that hav

mostly because of medicare and medicaid. that's not medicare's fault.fficient program and run by the government. so it doesn't have a lot of overhead. it has enormous economies of scale and bargain for better rates of doctors and hospitals dictate prices so for what it provides, medicare's very cheap. it's getting expensive over time because a lot more people are going on to the program and in general the health care system, public health insurance, private health insurance, it's all very expensive and only so much right now that medicare can do about it. the problem isn't medicare, per se. not that medicare is a wasteful program but the health care system is -- and health care costs and getting in to the guts of the health care system and rather than lopping off a sum of health care. >> if we lowered health care costs overall, the cost of medicare goes down andç medica more affordable without necessarily even needing to tinker with medicare and the point of something that you were writing about. we have all the conversations about hundreds of billions

it really is medicare is the biggest long-term threat.ut i think democrats hate a chain cpi adjustment less than they hate raising the retirement age for medicare which was a trial balloon we saw and provoked an angry reaction from the left. they may dislike this a little less than they dislike the talk about the retirement age for medicare. you make a good point. there's been so much focus i think appropriately on whether the republican party is capable of accepting higher tax rates and whether the tea party and the junior members of the house are going to stand their ground and kind of shoot down anything boehner proposes on that front, but you have to keep in mind, obama has got to sell it to democrats as well. you can't do this without democrats. so he moves a little bit boehner's way and then he has to worry about his blaflank on the left. >> let's talk about that a little bit. one of the other underlying dynamics we've been talking about is the democrats have the uner hand. if nothing happens, all the tax rates go up and then they'r

medicare, too. every single pay check, people pay in, but the difference is, when you get medicare, you continue to pay. and i want to talk a little bit about the truth of what's going on in medicare today and the myths. talk about means testing social security. guess what? we do. we already means test social security. i want everybody to understand that. we means test social security. medicare part d premiums, that's for doctor-outpatient and part d, prescription drug premiums, are already higher for individuals with incomes over $85,000 a year. now, let's remember we are calling middle class for everyone else up to $250,000, but for medicare purposes, people who make $85,000 or more, they're going to pay extra costs arranging from $504 a year to $2,270 a year for part b and $ 139 to $797 more a year for part d. we means test medicare. . by 2020, with no adjustments, they're expected to rise from $ 200 to $6,000 more. higher income households pay more for future medical benefits during their workin

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enormous savings to medicare. because when you look at the medicare issue, it's a proks -- it's a projection for 10 years and the projected rate two years ago was like 5%, 6%, and where are you, down in the 2% rate nounge? those are multibillion dollars a year that the american public will not have to pay in taxes and increases in the expenditures. so these things begin to add up. but there are many, many more savings. i don't want to dominate all this time. i see that other of our colleagues have come and joined us. i think it's your turn, peter. peter welch from -- i've been missing all the states, would you like to maybe be from alaska or, well, we'll just say vermont. mr. welch: i kind of like vermont but thank you. this is such an important issue about the future, about the future. we can get a deficit deal, the president is committed to doing it. it's got to be balanced. balance means there's got to be revenues, you know, our taxes, especially from the high income, are at historic lows. we have to have healt

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wrapping around medicare. now that medicare is no longer the primary payer, they become primary.estimate total premiums will increase as result which would increase cost for employers and retirees, each of whom are expected to pay about half of a higher premium total. state medicaid spending is estimated to increase by just under a billion dollars in 2014. this is mainly a combination of increased spending on medicare part d premiums for the dual eligibles ages 67 and older but as i mentioned a seat -- it says they to increase the part b premium for medicare enrollees. in the state savings associate with not paying medicare premium for those aged 65 and 66 who would have been tools. so when you add it all up, the bottom line for our analysis is has been that federal savings of high point $7 billion, but net increase cost of $11.4 billion to other payers for a net result of $5.7 billion in increased costs overall. so to sum it all up and we estimate the raising the age of eligibility for medicare as fully as amended in 2014 would reduce medicare spending, although less than previo

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specific on how to restructure medicare.s it responsible for the met to present a vision being specific on tax hikes but on medicare saying, we'll get to a specific number but we won't specify? is it because there's so much pressure on the left to not reform medicare? >> i think it's certainly a fight. and i think we have to be careful. we have to make sure -- i think we can get to means testing fairly easily. some higher co-pays for people who can afford it. as i said before, donald trump may need medication but he doesn't need the government to pay for it. we've got to get to a point where we are really having people who can afford to pay for their health care, having them take that responsibility. >> that's the position the president should adopt in your view? >> i think so. i think aggressive means testing for people who can afford it makes sense as we look at long-term savings in the medicare program. but here's the thing. bob and i both know, he and i are talking and i think we can get a deal through the senate. the qu

with medicare and this isn't going to be it. it is really more part and parcel of trying to recognize that the world has shifted over the course of the last century and to claim appreciation more than most on this panel for having that happen, but we need to try to get this bill into expectation for people who are currently working, that this was an outdated concept the generation ago, maybe even two generations ago, it needs to be changed going forward. >> you missed the point, regardless of whether 65 or 66-year-olds are retired or working you still need health coverage. it is really about a health care coverage issue and affordable coverage issue and that happen either in the workplace or out of the workplace but still an affordable coverage issue. >> people who are continuing working as an expected part of life this becomes not much different from being 63 or 64. it is how you go into the mid 60 period when most people who report being retired are not retired because of reasons of disability. there's a group that do fall int

guest: it medicare part a and medicare part b, there are different structures. you combine those deductibles into one. he is talking about capping what seniors pay out of pocket. news did not have that now -- seniors do not have that now. there is concern that some policies are incentivizing markair and that they should be pared back. these are areas that could be part of the discussion going into next year. look at the supplementals and say if you want to buy the policy, you have to pay a surcharge. that is an incentive for you to consume more care. they buy that protection because they want it. half of seniors have incomes of less than $22,000 a year. host: what is the argument against the proposal? guest: the argument would look at look at the plan. many republicans want to have a premium support a fixed percentage that the government contributes to you for your medicare coverage. paul ryan advanced this in the house. if you limit medicare spending, what would that spend out of the pocket? combining them is not necessarily something that is purely a democrati

if you want to cut medicare, keep the money in medicare to extend medicare, not to pay for tax cuts.e you would be very open to letting all of the tax rates go back to up pre- bush cutting levels, and other words, clinton-era levels. in order to not touch anything on entitlements. >> that is the choice that you want to make. neil: but a lot of people don't want to make that choice. >> but it's a choice that we will have to make the monk that amount that is a choice that you just made. is almost mathematically required that you also cut medicare to pay for it. neil: can we do both? >> well, you can pay for, but you have to pay for it in some kind of way. you are talking arithmetic. going to have to address the fact that government spending is exceeding the money at this being brought in. it might now, but you still have to address spending. are you doing in the spending side? >> well, we have already cut a trillion and a half of non-defense discretionary, the lowest point that it has been as a percentage of gdp. we have already made significant cuts. we cut $716 billion. must not have

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right now is the republican poison pill they put into it during the bush years medicare part d. which forces medicare to pay for pharmaceuticals at full retail the price of a single pill even though you're buying a million of them instead of negotiating discounts like the pentagon doesn't like walgreens does the result is that medicare is overpaying for drugs to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars a decade instead stupidly democrats are letting republicans drive the discussion of how to save medicare money by talking about the eligibility age which would even save our government money into a little to shift the medicare cause of sixty five to sixty seven year olds into the general fund or the states and to some extent and consumers themselves and if president obama gives in to republicans and raises the eligibility age for medicare it will be creating his very own todd akin moment which has to be what the republicans are hoping will too. he'll end up taking the heat for their anti retiring policies. a recent poll shows just how unpopular cuts or raising the medicare elig

savings that extended the life of medicare. they said they want to add all the costs back in. hopefully they are back to the position of the ryan budget to recognize they're important savings. number one. number two, the president's plan, budget, contains medicare savings than the ryan-republican plan did. we'd like to see the specifics, what are they proposing with respect to cuts to medicare? >> we can go around the healthcare barnyard again and again, about how you can't spend that money twice. and how medicare actuary said that. the $716 billion. you can either use it to shore up medicare or use it to pay for obamacare. >> right. right. but the fact is the position that mitt romney took as a presidential candidate was to put all of those costs back in to medicare. which would have meant it went insolvent eight years sooner. >> bret: but we're not talking about romney anymore. we're talking what about you'll do to find a solution going forward. >> i know we're not talking about romney. we're talking about the house proposal

so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurancelan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> today forbes released the list of the 71 most powerful people in the world. it's compiled by evaluating four main factors, how many people you have power over, financial resources under your control, having influence in more

remember, all medicare supplement insurance plans help cover what medicare doesn't pay.ld save you thousands a year in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. and learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now -- and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. >>neil: the president's tax tactics are upsetting the republicans but a democratic caucus member sees it as time for the president to step up, connecticut senator joe lieberman, and on his way out he is creating a big fuss. senator, good to have you. >>guest: good to back to create a little fuss. >>neil: senator, what is it you are having a problem with here? the president has to step up or play a more active role or delegate that to the treasury secretary? >>guest: certainly a lot of this is going to be done at the staff level. but, ultimately, this is going to require an agreement between president obama, speaker boehner, senator mcconnell, senator harry reid and leader pelosi and in some sense it is going to be the two main player

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remember, all medicare supplement insurance plans help cover what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands a year in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. and learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now -- and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. senate republicans are holding america's progress hostage with the filibuster. they have blocked legislation like the veterans jobs act, which is killing thousands of jobs in the process. now senate democrats want action. they want to change e. senate majority leader harry reid wants three changes to the filibuster. they would make debates public and provide a shorter timeframe for breaking filibusters. these are minor reforms and the filibuster can still be used. republican minority leader mitch mcconnell railed against the changed earlier today. he said they were an effort to marginalize the minority party. harry reid hit right back atd the gentleman from kentu

gets paid by medicare, which is called medicare advantage. well, before we passed the affordable care act, we were overpaying those private insurers by 14%. these insurers were getting much more than they should have based on the benefits they were providing to seniors. so we cut. what medicare gives to these private insurance companies. that was -- over the next ten years, we are going to cut these insurance payments by 14%. which c.b.o. scored in 2010 as saving medicare $136 billion over ten years. and we were told by some of our colleagues that insurance companies were going to leave the market, that we weren't going to have medicare advantage anymore. well, so far enrollment in medicare advantage has gone up by 11%. so this is many, many billions of dollars that we were able to take instead of overpaying insurance companies, that we were able to take it and extend the life of medicare. now, second is the lower reimbursements to hospitals. now, why does this work out for hospitals? well, when you insure 31 million more people, when those 3

it's not just medicare beneficiaries. in the sequestration, lots of other programs get hit. you're interested in biomedical research and the nih, that gets hit. is you've got to be very careful here. plus, the republicans constantly say, well, we don't want to become like greece. what's driving off the fiscal cliff make us look like? it makes us look completely irresponsible as if we can't control our own spending and put in order some priorities. >> so there will be some real health care suffering if we go off the cliff, so to speak? >> that's absolutely true. i would say the other important thing we need to do, we want to incentivize doctors an hospitals to keep people well. not to just do procedures. and that is the key to really transforming medicare. >> all right. i want to show you a map of the states that are refusing to implement the insurance exchanges. it's rather interesting. the other states are either implementing the exchanges or haven't decided to do that. if states don't decide to do it and the federal gov

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