for example, i think we need -- one of the ideas the president put out there is medipac, where you would take the politics if you will, out of the medical decisions. and have a commission with oversight from the secretary of health and human services that makes those decisions. instead of having 535 members of congress making the tough choices. as it relates to the costs as well as the reimbursement rate system of i mean, i don't know if that's something i'm for or not, i'm just saying i want to learn more about it, the president has thrown it out there, i think it should at least be on the table. this is the biggest reform of any domestic issue in my lifetime. and to try to speed this thing through committee in five days i think is ridiculous. i think we need to slow it down we need to look at every option on the table and find ways we can really contain costs to stop the rate of inflation. not only can we never balance the federal budget again until we get health care costs under control, but the 160 million who have health insurance today, they won't have it in 10, 15, 20 years from n

one of the ideas that the president put out there is the net impact -- medipac, taking the politics out of the medical decision instead of having bought the 35 members of congress that are standing for reelection making tough choices, as it relates to the costs, as well as the reimbursement rates. i don't know what that is something i am for or not. i wanna learn more about it. i think it should be on the table. this is the biggest reform of any domestic issue in my lifetime. and to try to speed this through committee in five days? it is ridiculous. we need to slow it down and look at every option that is on the table and find ways that we can really contain costs, to stop the raid in inflation. not only can we never balance the federal budget again, but the 160 million who do not have health insurance today, they will not have it in 10-20 years from now. we have already seen the employers shifting more and more of the cost to the employees. and in the next 15 years, it will reach a point whether knighted the employer nor the employee cannot afford a. a lot of people started thinking we

and the individual and the administration by setting up a program where medipac or a new advisory committee teeth in it to make the decision to hold down the costs. >> because congress can't do it? >> congress can't do it. that's the problem. >> you'll be here, governor. pharma chief, billy tauzin, thank you. we appreciate it today. any final comments, quick one? >> the president is right about the most important thing, in that we've got a moral imperative and an economic imperative to fix the system. we have too many people that don't have insurance. that's a burden on the system. it encourages bad health care because it doesn't do anything about preventive and disease control. obesity and the chronic diseases are running rampant. it will break this country very soon. we have to fix it. tommy's right, we have to fix it right so people can keep their private systems when they want to. we have to fix the public system so they're better. they are going broke. they don't always do their job for people. we have to make sure in this country that we have the kind of competition that tommy talked