is, this is the beginning of the first millennium, when the reorientation of this entire mediterranean roman-greek-hellenistic culture actually occurs, a reorientation to the east occurs, that's when philosophy begins to transform from oral discussions into a commentary on the text, yes, that's the subsequent, as if starting from the first century ad, the main genre of our era, the main genre of philosophical literature, the most... the article is understandable for its circle, but when we talk about gaining knowledge students, of course, classes directly with them, manual classes, yes with students, reading texts, the same, such reading of texts, which would not constantly you do not correct students, together with them you work on the text, this is the thing from which they receive most, maybe even not knowledge, but the ability to work skills to philosophical work, it seems to me plato also spoke about this, in this from this point of view. right, let's talk a little about the academy, when i read in losyev, what the academy looked like, i someone asked where, where did alexey fyodorovich know