>> najip: mee siam. >> anthony: we are having longton.ables, and a hard-boiled egg. and mee siam, fried rice noodles with chili paste, prawns, bean sprouts and a spicy sweet and sour gravy, fried bean curd and an egg. delicious. i mean, we like to make fun of singapore in the west and call it disney land with the death penalty, and we're skeptical, of course, of one party rule, we're skeptical of constraints on freedom of the press or the things you can't do. >> najip: can't do, yeah. >> anthony: do you think that young creative singaporeans feels those constraints and suffer from them? >> najip: i think some of them who travel knows better. most of them are over educated and under exposed, meaning they have very little experience in what they know. and i think that's what we are lacking. they're looking for things to do. and the problem with this is we're living in a small country and we have nowhere to go and no way to experience these things. if you're in new york and you don't like the city life and you say shit, i'm -- >> anthony: yo