if you really stop the this massive collection of of the mega data. the two from the information who sent what to do and plan of. in short it does not. of you does not invoke the probable cause standard in all our fourth amendment to the constitution says there shall be no search and seizure of person old property or information without the enforcement or surveillance agency going before an independent judge proving that they know what they're doing. proving that they're not on a wild goose chase for operating on an empty hunch. i ended up with very specific accounting of who they are looking for and what they are looking for now meanwhile we also have this white house appointed can all make the audi long list of forty six recommendations designed to increase transparency that very day that that when he was wrongly science and town of one of its authors cast the sun seemed to be claims that he had complete access to conduct the report and i asked if he found anything surprising during his investigation. i wanna take a look at his response and i will g

that is the judicial review before anybody can go into the mega data of telephone numbers and e-mail links to get more information. that is a new development along with the two steps removed from terrorist policy he has instituted. if that does have an impact on slowing things down, congress will look at this in more detail in the months ahead. we will see what they come up with. >> the president kicked a lot back to congress. what chance is there of them agreeing with him? >> they are faced with competing priorities like the president. privacy and individual liberty on one hand and protecting the homeland on the other. what we have seen in other developments is congress is very conservative on taking action that would limit the ability of american spies and operators to go after terrorists. >> the president said the nsa will only pursue phone calls fedor two steps removed from a number associated with a terrorist organization rather than three steps. is that a big change? >> i would have to look into it in more detail. i think this would not have been proposed if we had not discover

collection basically the president no longer wants the government to be in control of these massive mega data database but that doesn't mean the president wants to get rid of all election. in fact the ball collection of virtually every american submitted data will continue indefinitely. in the new restrictions announced by the president were pouring the nsa to obtain fi support approval before searching all that madonna doesn't satisfy privacy advocates who argue that buys a court has acted and will continue to act as a rubber stamp nothing in obama's each of twenty twenty have grinned and has collected all the props and yesterday there was and the revelation of october th by your program. each buyer program was collecting objects cost literally hundreds of thousands of text calls every day are going into the indices allowed him to die to kenny cooper regarding spying on foreign leaders the president said he's put an end to surveillance on friends and allies. we do not say the nsa will stop spying on diplomats nothing about the nsa bridging encryption standard supports that the nsa has been b

. >> we are storing mega data and we have to have the companyity to serve that. they're arresting. $2 billion last year on buying soft layer technologies. it was a deal to over more cloud services. sales up 69% last year for i.b.m. that also trying to open a new product that, i mean, they know we've got to mind this big data and fascinating and the super commuter unit. it's a wholeew business unit. apparently the super computer can answer question in a controversial language. they're having to take tough choices. they're having to eliminate jobs there wiping out -- it's going to cost them in the shortstop but eventually they are wiping out jobs. and they're die vesting. they're actually looking to buy their hardware business. it hit that probably for the fourth quarter. we have to question why le noveo wants it. -- lenovo wants it. they're trying to exit the less profitable serving unit. it looks as though earnings 2015.t will write .5 in it's the same trade as the .i.p. yesterday. those are ones to watch. >> i love that caroline. guy johnson is at the help. you'

by sifting through this so called mega data. they may identify potential leads. with respect to folks who might engage in terror. this does not apply to us citizens and does not apply to people living in the united states the friends of the program even had come under fire in the court system. in the white house's own review panel has alienated privacy and civil liberties advocates so what do my routine this year in disaster. after years of crisis and syria has worsened. most americans can agree on one thing. a us led war in theory i would not be the answer. in fact according to reuters. it's this cold from august of twenty thirteen and nine per cent of respondents were in favor of the intervening militarily in the country. but despite the overwhelming opinion president obama remains static fast in his september speech to american that it targeted strike even next course of action. ultimately a diplomatic solution was announced. however some analysts have said that obama is drumming up support for military intervention chip lead and that his liberal base. and tha

get it outside the government to get the mega data to be parked there and pursue calls two steps awayst point mean? >> you've got this massive database and lord knows, it is massive and you're phone calls and my phone calls is in there. you get a dirty number, say from i didn't meanen a new cell phone you've never seen before. you get to ask that database, has that bad phone ever been in contact with anyone here? if the answer is yes, then you get the contact chain out from that u.s. number. what the president has done is reduced the number of hops you can go out from the u.s. number. now, look, if going out to the third hop wasn't useful, brian, we wouldn't have been doing it in the first place. that said, that third hop gets pretty defused. i think i mentioned yesterday on your network that at that third hop, you discover everyone has a dentist and everyone orders pizza. >> got you. by the way, i get e-mails after i make a purchase at a radio shack or target that gives me a coupon for something else along that ilk. all the phone numbers i dialed could be there if i chose to look at

had had the mega-data program, it would have realized that when one of the 19 hijackers called home toyemen, he was in san diego. the problem with opening up that pandora's box is, the c.i.a. knew he was in san diego. the problem isn't that we didn't know about it, it is that one hand didn't tell the other hand. i think this is one occasion when the administration will regret having opened up the discussion. it is not really crucial on the president's statement today. the third thing on my mind, is he going to mention edward snowden. it came up very clearly. the president made his views on edward snowden clear as he has in the past. he is not a whistle blower, in the president's eyes. he's a man that violated his secret service oath. he's a man that leaked information in an often sensationalistic and inaccurate way, and he said snowden has harmed our ability to gather information for years if not decades to come. the president in effect associated himself with remarks from british intelligence chiefs who have asked the question, what has snowden done, responded, al-qaeda will be lappin

i think sort of the mega data point be here is that according to the gallup poll, 72 of americans don'tthe -- 72% of americans don't trust the federal government. that puts the federal government on top of iran or china or al-qaeda or whoever. we can argue about whether they're correct or not, but that's undeniable, where the american people are. and i think rand paul represents some truly heart-felt feelings that can't be waved away just by insults. jon: so, alan, what do you think? do you think -- well, you tell me what you think. >> oh, thank you. [laughter] well, for one thing, i agree with jim that you can't just wave this away by insulting rand that rand paul and peter king have both with made noises about seeking the republican nomination for president 2016, i think that's really what this sniping is about mostly from peter king's stand point. you know, he shouldn't be a senator, he said. i think rand paul, i'm with rand paul on snowden, but i would go even further and say snowden, i'm not sure he deserves time in prison. he deserves a trial first before we determine he should ha

he will end mega data. calls and emails that the government collect in a sweeping net and has available to it if they want to look for nefarious activity. the president will say the government should not have complete custody of that data and ask congress, ask the justice department for some input on how to hold that data. the president will call for more transparency. he'll call for making it tougher for agencies to access that data. they have to go the court repeatedly as opposed to just having it and more privacy steps as well including what i'll call an ombudsman. it's significant in this, carol in that we have arc here, a major post-9/11 retreat from government power in this community, post after 9/11 for years and years if the government wanted to do more it got permission. the country stepping back. >> the other strange thing is edward snowden. he's exiled. considered a criminal by the u.s. government. yet the president will come out and give a speech in an hour and a half to announce changes brought

he's set to end the telephone mega data collection program in its current form.t target store nationwide was part of a much larger cyber attack on retailers. hackers are linked to organized crime in russia. number four a big fundraising weekend ahead for governor chris christie as 20 new subpoenas are issued in the bridgegate scandal. as of now the governor has not been subpoenaed. happy birthday mrs. obama, the first lady is celebrating her 50th today. tonight at 10:00 the premier of the cnn documentary, an extraordinary journey, michele obama turns 50. that's tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. we're always updating the five things you need to know so go to cnn.com. >> the parents of a missing american teen vogue not rest until their daughter is found. 19-year-old danielle wright was one of seven people aboard a sooner when it vanished in stormy seas between australia and new zealand. that was more than seven months ago but the girl's parents aren't giving up hope. why the optimism? >> it's been seven months. they say they are determined to find her.

pot in our case they're actually representing a mega opulent user who wants to have a state up back and there are millions of others waiting to have their data back and they're waiting for two years already so that you have to ask yes is in our court case lawrence you know it's of cause one of the key figures in the intellectual scene around internet freedom so he is in touch with us and you know is wishing us good luck. i'm not against copyright though i'm i'm against copyright extremism you know i think people who create something they have a right to make money but it shouldn't overwrite innovation it shouldn't override things that make society function better and what hollywood is trying to do is they basically turn the internet into a totally sends one controlled the network to their liking and that is what i'm fighting against. it's right to professor lawrence lessig start it with what he's fighting against is what he calls perpetual copyright in other words there should be a point when copyright when intellectual property returns to the public domain and from where it comes and there needs to be some protection for that to protect the

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