with us to discuss this is megan jojo, senior council, with the electronic privacy information center, also known as epic. and in san francisco, julie ohio executive director of internet south wants yay, or internet without borders. and in oakland, california mclean, draughty of the electronic frontier foundation, he's an attorney and legal fellow that focuses on free speech litigation. ah, so many things to discuss here. a complicated topic for people who are not caught up. welcome to you all. i'm gonna start with the basics. julie, what is section $230.00. thank you. have no, that's a great pleasure to be here. well, it's important to remember that basically regulation of content, moderation, by social media, because it's, that's what it's about is restricted in the united states by the 1st amendment on the one hand and section 230, which we're talking about the 1st amendment limiting, oh, preventing government from making laws to force an interpretation of freedom of speech . but what does section to 30 says it says on the one hand to 30 c. one says on the one hand that platforms a