megan murphy and nan hayworth back with me. your paper has a time line of when people knew about allegations against rob porter. it's not just john kelly. white house counsel dan mcgann knew of the incidents more than a year ago. i want to share a quote from the piece. in january 2017, a year ago, when mcgann learned of the allegations, he wanted porter to stay put, because he saw the harvard law trained capitol hill veteran as a steadying professional voice in the white house according to people familiar with the matter. how significant is it that porter was allowed to stay in the job? again, a steadying hand. because the guy served in the military and went to harvard? no problema he's accused of beating two ex-wives? >> it's a troubling situation across the board -- >> that's an understatement. >> indeed. when you think about the white house's response and talking to sources there over the last two days. they keep saying that the fbi was going through a process. but they were aware of the allegations and they say porter conti

with us at the table megan murphy, the reverend al sharpton host of politics nation here on msnbc and president of the national action network. commentary magazine editor and msnbc contributor. and john heilman -- alrighty. messing around. nbc news and msnbc national analyst. phil rucker, let me start with you and your phenomenal reporting all week. but on this story today, you detail something that i've never read as a white house staffer or someone covering this white house. aides left the staff meeting this morning and basically came out and said kelly is telling a story that's a big fat lie. >> that's right, nicolle. we got calls from folks about that meeting that john kelly tried to present a version of events that simply does not match the public record that's been offered by the white house. but it also doesn't match the behind-the-scenes reporting that we've done at the post that you guys have done at msnbc and elsewhere. kelly tried to say to staff and asked them, by the way, to distribute this message to their subordinates to everybody working at the white house hears it, th

matthew dodd, megan murphy, david axelrod, alex castianos and our senior white house correspondent cecelia matt, you've worked in the white house. david worked in the white house as well. we just heard from congressman maloney. where was the break down their in this rob porter story? >> can i respond to kellyanne conway? whoo! her relationship with truth is moes chart bly described as it's complicated in this. first of all for me we ought to fire any abuser. secondly, in this day and age the fault position should be believe the women. this is where i fault kellyanne conway and fault general kelly and the general counsel and this is where i fault the president. this is allowed to exist in america in every walk of life because people enable it. they decide the ends justify the means. they decide somebody is doing their job well. i'll disagree with governor christie on something. this isn't about competence. this is about a moral problem. it's a moral situation that the president through his own actions and his actions over the years has allowed this to fester. this is what happens. >> we saw