. >> reporter: meghan chambers was a reluctant open book convert. in 2004 she opened the springfield clothing boutique, staxx. although the store had great p.r. and soaring sales, three years after opening, she ran out of cash. >> it was because all my money was tied in my inventory. it was a difficult time. i was not sleeping and i was not eating. this was going to go down and it was such a good thing and why was it going to go down? i didn't understand it. >> my daughter has style. okay? if you went to her store, she's got an incredible style but she hates numbers. >> reporter: before she married, meghan chambers was meghan stack, the only one of jack's children not playing the game of open book management. the family's dirty little secret, since her parents had bankrolled the store. >> i bleed open-book management! i believe that you have to have style but you have to have that financial acumen and be able to put the two together. >> finally, i went to a meeting with him like with tears-- just like-- "all right, i'm ready! like, "what do you i ha

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