>> pretty meh, i think. i not expecting much. >> meh. >> yeah, kind of meh. that is technical stuff. i think the leaks yesterday are what people were expecting to hear. and those things -- the fundamental problem for apple is continuing weakness in the ipad market, in part because of what apple has done with itself to my cannibalizing its own products, and because of the different nature of the tablet marketplace compared to the smartphone market. there are not a lot of rabbits to pull out of the hat with respect to new products other than possibly a retina mac book air, but that seems like it will this year orr early next. >> i was speaking to a venture capitalist yesterday about the future of apple, and he was a little bit more optimistic than you. they tear what he said about tim cook and the future of apple. will be extremely successful. ofle gaining strength, sort what i talked about earlier, you can kind of deal it. is the company gaining strategic strength are losing it? you can just feel that they are gaining strength. i think they will do a started n

meh. come on, guys. >> i switch every year between apple and android. android is laughing. -- lapping apple. this phone is pretty vanilla. that said, like every year, if you do not have an ipad, it is good to get the next one. -- good to get the new one. >> where does apple go from here? the ipad is still 15% to 20% revenue. what is going to grow? is it all about the phones? what else do they have? >> it is not clear what they have. we are more rapidly ruling things out. this is my disappointment. i gave you an example of earlier of not buying cloud services like spotify or dropbox, and going to the baffling decision of owning beats. that makes no sense, and i can't imagine that is going to change. there are obvious things they could have done and should be doing and they are not doing as they focus on optimization of battery life. it feels like dell circa 1996 and people are getting excited -- >> wait, wait. people are disagreeing. >> buying beats, getting them a leg up. >> joe brown and paul kedrosky, and john ensign, president of the global design fi

supporting immigration reform and they are -- and i think that's one reason why their own base seems kind of mehhings back to florida, but florida is so awesome. >> it's a choice of words. >> charlie crist is the one guy, the one democrat, former republican, former independent charlie crist is running on obamacare. >> a very interesting test. he's the one anyway in the country that is forthrightly embracing president obama as a strategy to win reelection to become the governor again. obamacare and fans will do it for charlie crist. >> joy reed and david corn, it's good to see you. catch joy reed week days at 2:00 p.m. here on msnbc. >> that is if it for now. i'll see you tomorrow "the ed show" is coming up next. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work! ♪ ♪ >> we know how to control ebola even in this period. >> as soon as somebody is diagnosed with ebola. >> it was just a little chaotic scene. >> we want a rapid response team, a s.w.a.t. team essentially from the cdc to be on the ground as quickly as possible. hopefully, within 24 hours. >> we

>> i feel meh about apple. we said they will probably trade sideways.e ipads, they do have an issue there. the only thing that probably keeps the stock up with that is the fact that the ipods -- remember everybody talked about the demise of those -- they actually sold pretty well afterwards. for me i think between $94 and $102, that's where we trade until probably the holiday season. >> what do you think here? >> i kind of agree. >> you're wrong and you're feeling mmeh. >> apple has hung in there pretty well. today was a little bigger move than we've seen. i like the strategy selling calls against. we don't have the date yet on the iphone 6. >> should we be concerned it's 5 1/2 inches and the mini is 7.9 inches. >> this is the new one and it is enormous and i'm happy to say that on air. additionally this particular device -- >> awful. children. >> this particular device does steal the ipad mini thunder. it truly does and i don't know why you'd have both. >> thank you. >> it's been treated like a utility. when the market was selling off, this was hoverin

while a lot of koifrs conservae angry, liberals are meh, not so enthusiastic. >> the intense gap.here. the president's numbers are okay, not great. the generic bailout, which democrats can be happy with nationally. what we're likely to have is modest republican gains in the house and probable republican take the senate, is that the progress sis a week out. >> but barely take it at least if you look at the current forecasting. because both parties pretty displeased with how things are going and displeased with their own parties. single-digit gains for republicans in the house after both parties were crowing about the possibility of taking 25 seats, even jaust few months ago. and in the senate, it will be a slim majority for republicans. and it may have to wait even a few more weeks depending how things go in louisiana and georgia. >> we might not be done a week from today. if you want one race that tells you something about the mood in the country. look at the senate race in kentucky, mitch mcconnell is the republican leader. the president is the issue in a mid-term election. presi