back with me now is mehdi hasan, senior columnist for the intercept and host of the deconstructed podcast, and david jolly. >> watching florida has been remarkable, the delay from spring break, the botched responses to cruise ships. we had two cruise ships coming and they were still negotiating how that's going to happen. if you're the governor of florida, you would have thought on day one you knew every cruise ship coming in. beyond that, the ability to apply for unemployment benefits, the pot available to people for unemployment benefits. florida seems to be less prepared for this than most states? >>. >> look it's hard to judge ron desantis's role in this as anything but a colossal failure. he entered office replark bmark with some support of democrats. he was one of the most popular governors in the state because of how he chose to govern choseo govern initially but we've seen him revert to some f ohis true tumpian ten dan denciestendenci. he first put it all on local and municipal governments. he pushed it off on other players to be responsible. he adopted the zen phobic approach. ha