and this gives, peter meijer thing in michigan. which is like steve said, confusing to some democrats. because some democrats want the more extreme trump backed republican to win the primary so that he loses the election. but they really think that they said if they had the choice, rather happier with meijers. what are you making of what you have seen so far? >> yeah, they see having. we i was on the last hour. maybe a little bit bullish on the democracy candidates in some of these races. we'll see even in the last, hour gibbs as kornacki just talked about, has taken the lead, in that race. i'm not so sure that robson is in great shape there, obviously she is winning, there's a big gap, but we see what happens in this election day vote. michigan, same thing could happen in arizona where lake could catch up. that is something to keep an eye on. which you have here and the michigan race i think is a more clear cut situation. in meijer might not be on the issues that liberals cup of tea. but he voted to impeach the president. he has b

meijer has just taken the lead. most of the remaining vote is in kent county, meijer's political base.r' he has a chance to pull this out. that would be significant. of those ten house republicans who voted to impeach ten, a lot retired, one defeated in a primary, one got through a primary but trump didn't haveou anything to do with that primary. this would be the firstth time he wins the first time you have a house republican who voted to impeach trump actually survive a primary where trump endorsed his rival. that's ado huge if, but meijersn the game. that a surprise. you come on the air just as the numbers start to come in in arizona. and what we are waiting on here, let's see here. start with the governor's race. we have one tiny county reporting just scattering of vote -- oh, we just got votes. here it is. this is huge.th okay. what just happened, this is how it works in arizona. maricopa county, where phoenix is, by far the biggest county in the state. about 55 to 60% of all the votes in the republican primary

peter meijer one of them.king was saying people at home might not know meijer, you know where they know the name meijer, in michigan. >> cars all the food. >> exactly. but he is a republican in a different mold then the modern-day trump dominated republican party. and he has been sort of fighting that fight. and if he's able to successfully withstand this challenge from a trump backed challenger, john gibbs, who served in trump's housing and urban development department, this will be sort of the first pushback on that vengeance tour that we see in this primary season of the republican party. and by the way, what is happening, what the democrats did in this race, look how close it is, it could really potentially be a factor here. david, i know you are no fan of what democrats have done, i think they're playing with fire. it's >> not just play with fire, i think when a person puts their career on the line to vote for impeachment, knowing that trump is going to come after them, and it may and -- he's a very young

peter meijer has a chance of surviving this primary. it will be the first time we see a house republican who voted to impeach trump. if he can hold out of this little, be the first time against the trump backed challenger. meijer absolutely in this game, and that alone is a bit of a surprise. >> really really interesting. steve thank you for that update. we do have some breaking news. abc news is reporting that federal grand jury investigating the january 6th attack has subpoenaed pat cipollone who served as donald trump's white house counsel. joining us now hugo wo a white house correspondent for the guardian. what is the latest on this investigation in the news that pat cipollone is gonna have to testify for the grand jury? >> it's really significant. the idea that trump's former white house counsel who was in the white house january six and told the former president that his plans to steal the election were legal, is going to a grand jury washington is to testify before the grand jury's really big news. we heard that marc short and g

this guy gibbs who beat meijer, meijer voted to impeach donald trump. the democratic party itself put money in, put money into the gibbs campaign because they thought he'd be the weaker candidate and they were able to defeat meijer who actually stood up and voted to impeach trump. now, you go figure that one out. that's kind of wacky and not good for the future of the way we do elections in this country. >> it's a big risk. it's true, the dccc put all this money behind meijer's opponent who won last night. how much of a sure bet is it that he would lose in the general? >> it isn't a sure bet -- >> go ahead, eva. >> go ahead, i'm sorry. >> it isn't a sure bet, and democrats have long made the argument that democracy should be put over politics. i'll also say that if gibbs is ultimately successful in the fall, i think some of those democrats are really going to regret it because they will have wish they would have had a congressman meijer, someone who's shown that he's willing to work across the aisle, someone who is independent minded and willing to work

great interview. >> what did you make of peter meijer's comments?se he's exactly the kind of politician we need right now and for four or five years i listened to democrats, rightly, admonish republicans for putting party over country, for putting trump over country, and i watched them beg for more peter meijers and adam kinzingers and liz cheneys and it's not just the blood money that they're putting behind folks like peter meijer's opponents, it's like redrawing adam kinzinger's district so that he effectively couldn't win. congratulations, you just got the last remaining stop gaps out of congress. so color me cynical, democrats, when you, you know, talk about folks like meyer being the last thing remaining and then you don't do exactly what you could to help him stay there. you ask folks like me to cross party lines and vote for biden, which i did, lots of us did because we put country over party. >> made the difference in some swing states. >> the favor has not been returned. sad. >> as you said, with my shield or on it. on it. >> on it. >> righ

this is where grand rapids is this is peter meijer's base.he vote gets in for county, it's gonna be a lot more votes to come in here. so a big question mark here is it gonna stay this meyer friendly? but if the vote does stay this meyer friendly in kent county, he can rack up a lot. the other piece of it is the muskegon county, big of must-see can county's of district here. neutral for mayor. so i think what maya has got it too is just run up the score and can't, you can see a bit more coming in here. he's gotta run up the score and can't, because he's got offset where a problem's gonna be lost those other two counties. but it's interesting -- that wasn't supposed to happen. i want to reset on it, look at that, really now. it's narrowing. >> meyers is in the game. here >> you have been saying that all, day he's been feeling and sounding pretty confident that the reason people need to be interested in the story is that whatever happens to peter meijer, win or lose, this is a big american story now. this is a guy, a republican who said, i'm gon

but meijer losing that race last night. also the other two republicans who were on primary ballots yesterday who voted for impeachment out in washington state, remember, they do primaries different in washington. top two primaries. democrats, republicans, all the candidates on the same ballot. top two advance to the general election. here's jaime herrera beutler. she voted to impeach donald trump following january 6th. now, the democrat has already gotten through and will get one of the top two spots in november. jaime herrera beutler right now leads the trump-backed candidate in this race. his name is joe kent. herrera beutler leading by about 5,000 votes. in washington they take a long time to count the votes. this is going to take days, i think. but herrera beutler starts out in promising position for her campaign to get that second spot and potentially survive a challenge from a trump-backed candidate. and the other incumbent here, dan newhouse, 4th district, same story. it's going to be a while since we have all the re

and other, you know, trump lines and hitting peter meijer for his impeachment vote. this was as single or dueling issues as you can get, and yet democrats wrote the -- the campaign committee was clearly looking at trying to prop up who they believe is the weaker candidate. now could this backfire? absolutely it could backfire. and then they end up funding someone who they believe is a detriment to temperatdemocracy. this isn't the only place it's happened. we've seen it in pennsylvania, in several other races where, you know, okay, fine, you think that you boosted the weaker candidate, but you might not have. you might have caught the card here. >> you -- you play the odds, but you still -- there's still a risk. scott, i want your take on it -- here's a quote that stuck with me from last week, democratic congressman seth moulton talking to paul cane of "the washington post." here's what i said, "i think peter's exactly the kind of republican we want to have around, but at the end of the day we have to win the majority, and that is the bigger concern." politics is dir

kennedy: amash retired. >> yeah, but meijer tried to beat him before he retired. kennedy: that's politics, man. >> the point is gibb wons because he was more pro trump and means he was believing and pushing the conspiracy theories of battle election 2000 and all crazy conspiracy theories and they're a party of conspiracy theories and policies and limited government and all these other things that actually matter get replaced by do you stand by this crazy man, donald trump, and do you stand by his crazy conspiracy theories and that's bad for the party. it's an embarrassing outcome for the gop. kennedy: i understand people that want to run on the trump policy successes. i get that because that's what resinates with voters who are hurting right now that compare where they are to where they were. where they were before the pandemic, that was better. so it's a politician -- if a politician can promise that i i understand why it resinates. but the thing that drives me crazy, kevin, are the people holding on to the 2000 mule stop the steel back ward looking version of th

in michigan, republican congressman peter meijer lost his primary race to an election liar. notable in his race was the democratic meddling, the democratic congressional campaign committee spent more than $300,000 to boost meijer's opponent, conspiracy theorist john gibbs, in hopes that gibbs, backed by trump, will be easier to beat in november. it undermines democrats' claims that these' licks liars pose an existential threat to the republic. jeff zeleny starts our coverage from overland park, kansas, with more on how the late of the primary results could have national implications come november. >> reporter: a surge of kansas voters sending an overwhelming message to project ab boorgs rights. it was the biggest sign yesterday of the backlash to the supreme court's decision to send the question of abortion back to the states. here in conservative khan sarks voters delivered their answer loud and clear. the abortion measure drew historic turnout for an august election, with more than 900,000 voters casting ballots, dramatically outpacing primaries in 2018 and 2020. >> you ca

peter meijer faces re-election there today.er he cast his own ballot. >> i think it's important that we have somebody who is willing to do the hard work but also tell the truth. we're feeling very confident with the support that we've received. >> we've got reporters in both places this morning. shaquille brewster is in michigan and dasha burns in kansas. you just talked to meijer's primary opponent? >> reporter: and his message was similar to what you heard from congressman meijer yourself. john gibbs is over here. he's about to vote for himself, obviously, and meeting with reporters and campaign staff there. he told me he's coming into this race feeling confident. he feels like he's ahead. his internal polling is going extremely well and he has a double-digit lead. meijer saying that his internal polling shows he has the lead. both candidates say there are two big factors in this race. one is meijer's impeachment vote supporting the impeachment of president trump after the january 6th riots, but former president trump weighin

meijer: this is congressman peter meijer, and i'm honored to be speaking on one year anniversary of the withdrawal of afghanistan. we were in the republic of afghanistan and to be speaking at csis at this momentous occasion, i live in a unique position as a member of congress but also as someone who fought in iraq. i know what it is like to have body armor, armored vehicles, air support, medevac's and all of those things that are -- our soldiers and sailors have abroad. but also that have spent time in afghanistan as a humanitarian aid worker. when afghanistan fell, that was a scenario we had been concerned about for a while in congress, specifically concerned, and this coming from somebody who believes in the need for us to move toward a negotiating power, that the only way we could achieve peace in afghanistan would not have been through unilateral engagement on behalf of the afghan government, but the only way this would end peacefully was to review a power-sharing agreement hammered out that had clarity and would respect all parties of the conflicts. 20 years on and one year post th

in michigan, congressman peter meijer, one of the republicans who voted to impeach him lost to an election denier, gibbs. mr. gibbs was hardly the only election denier in the ballot last night. arizona republicans nominated a whole slate of them. and truly in keeping with what the man from mar-a-lago said in 2020, kari lake declared victory in a race cnn has yet to call even now. >> there is no path to victory for my opponent, and we won this race. period. she leads now. she has not won yet. however, election deniers have won the republican nod for u.s. senate seat, attorney general, and arizona top election official. as for rusty bowers, who refused to help overturn election results, he lost his nomination bid to a supporter of the former president. there's plenty to talk about with our panel, david chalian, barbara comstock, david urban, who served as campaign adviser to the former president. david chalian, what does the result in kansas tell you? >> well, it tells me that all the polling we saw nationally, anderson, after roe v. wade was overturned, that's actually -- that bore out to b

peter meijer.estern michigan, so meijer will end up being a pro impeachment republican defeated in a republican primary. also last night, in washington state. remember, primaries are different in washington state. they have what they call the top two primary democrats, republicans, they all run on the same ballot. the top two finishers advance to the general election in november. you have the democrat finishing in first here in the third district. here is jamie herrera butler voted to impeach donald trump. incumbent congresswoman. and notice, there are a lot of votes to come. she has about a 5,000 vote cushion over joe kent. they do it slowly in washington. it may take some time. there is a chance that jamie herrera butteler will get this second spot and will advance to the general election. also, in the fourth district. dan newhouse voted to impeach donald trump. right now, democrats in first, republicans in second, and lauren colt about, 4,000 votes behind newhouse in third place. so newhouse and

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meijer: this is congressman peter meijer, and i'm honored to be speaking on one year anniversary of the withdrawal of afghanistan. we were in the republic of afghanistan and to be speaking at csis at this momentous occasion, i live in a unique position as a member of congress but also as someone who fought in iraq. i know what it is like to have body armor, armored vehicles, air support, medevac's and all of those things that are -- our soldiers and sailors have abroad. but also that have spent time in afghanistan as a humanitarian aid worker. when afghanistan fell, that was a scenario we had been concerned about for a while in congress, specifically concerned, and this coming from somebody who believes in the need for us to move toward a negotiating power, that the only way we could achieve peace in afghanistan would not have been through unilateral engagement on behalf of the afghan government, but the only way this would end peacefully was to review a power-sharing agreement hammered out that had clarity and would respect all parties of the conflicts. 20 years on and one year post th

now but meijer in the game that in of itself is a big surprise. as you mentioned, you come on the, air just as the numbers start to come in in arizona. what we are waiting on here, let's see, here starts with the governor's base, we got one tiny county reporting just a scattering of those. oh! we just got boats, here it is. this is huge! okay. what's happened, this is how it works in arizona. maricopa county where phoenix, is the phoenix suburbs, by far the biggest county in the state. about 55 to 60% of all the votes in the republican primary in arizona are gonna come out of this one county. maricopa county if maricopa does this, within millet it's of poll close, you saw it here, they released hundreds of thousands of votes here. and you can see what they just released. karen taylor robeson leads carry lake. 50 to 40%. with this giant batch of votes that just came in from maricopa county. what are these votes? here is how it works and maricopa county. there is extensive mail voting, early voting, in arizona. every ballot that was received by yest

congressman meijer joins us from grand rapids, michigan. good morning to you, congressman.ry is an election denier named john gibbs and he's backed by former president trump. why do you think michigan republicans favored him? >> good morning, margaret. as you said, i lost my primary and that is on me. i take responsibility for that. but it's important to note that it wasn't just former president trump who was in this race. there was about a half million dollars that the democratic congressional campaign committee in their first expenditures of the 2022 midterms dumped in to help boost him. so we had a scenario where not only did i have the former president aligned against me but in a rare showing of bipartisan unity, nancy pelosi and the house democratic campaign committee also united to try to knock me off the ballot. now, this just highlights the cynicism and hypocrisy of our politics today. and frankly, it will be unknowable what that ultimate impact was. but the fact that we have the establishment left and the extreme right locking arms in common cause paints a very tel

. >>> and representative peter meijer.r he lost his seat in the primary to a relative unknown. we now know, the democrats funded verycomplimentary ads to his opponent. gibbs is a self-described maga candidates. democrats didn't want to run against meijer. they thought if they convinced republicans to defeat their own guy, they would have a better chance. meijer is liked by many. and he voted to impeach donald trump. the "new york times" released a full editorial, calling it a cynical new low. to defeat moderate republicans will not strengthen the nation. it will mean there is less chance for the emergence of leaders willing to call out and condemn wrongdoing by their own party. >> on facebook, you can join me. i'm at scott mcgrew tv. >> all right. thank you so much, scott. also new this morning. if you have a flight planned, know that you might have some rights if it is delayed or if it is canceled. the department of transportation is considering requiring airlines offer passengers a refund, if their flights are significan

peter meijer won another ten republicans who voted to impeaching lost to election denier named john gibbs. democrats spent hundreds of thousands of dollars boosting gives us ties to the former president in order to make him their opponent in the fall. mister gibbs is hardly the only election july are in the ballot last. night arizona republicans nominated all slate. truly in keeping with the man for orlando said on election night, kari lake, candidate for governor, declared victory in a race that has yet to poll even now. >> there is no path to victory for my opponent, and we won this race. [applause] >> she leads now. she has not won yet. however election deniers have won the republican nod for u.s. senate seat, attorney general and secretary of state arizona's top election official. as for conservative republicans state house speaker rusty bowers who refused overturn 2020 election rivals all's, he lost his bid to supporter of the former president. cnn political director david chalian, barbara birkenstock, strategist david urban, campaign adviser the former president. david chalian, what

meijer supporters are behind gibbs. might the anti-democratic candidates one, but imagine if you had the january 6th committee, and there was no liz cheney and no adam kinzinger. they are being forced out of the party. it takes republican voters to vote for them. this is not a democratic problem. but democrats are making things worse when they target the few pro-democracy voices in the republican party. that's why this is different than the normal politics of trying to pick a weaker opponent. >> might this cause an extreme iftd ist candidate on the left or the right, to rein in their behavior so they're not catching flak from both sides. and perhaps that person gets elected and we don't know what we have on our hands with them. >> the more like ly scenario, someone who is deciding, do i speak up against what donald trump has done with the republican party, they know they're not going to only take incoming from their own party, they're going to take it from the democrats who are going to try to pick them off. it creates

wouldn't democrats rather work with a meijer than a gibbs?ll, again, they have to do the role of the party committee is to do what they think will help them win in november. in this district, they think we've got a shot with our democratic candidates. so they have to do what they think is best to give that candidate every opportunity. and look, people keep complaining democrats aren't being tough. well, they're playing tough. they're playing hard ball. >> the sanctimonious nonsense who say they are the party of democracy to put their good money behind republicans who are anti-election and are supportive of the riots at the capitol. that's awful. and think about this. what if you were a democrat, a good democrat running for office and money that should be going to you is going to a republican? and here's the thing. they are being used as pawns and donald trump in the last election. >> isn't it the failure of the republicans that these issues have that much weight in the republican primary? that that is what your voters are voting for? what doe

meijer voted to impeach then president trump after the january 6th attack on the capitol.ed gibbs early this morning and conceded the race. another republican who voted for trump's impeachment on their way out of washington. >>> meanwhile, nbc news projects that progressive democratic congressman andy levin lost to a more moderate in his own party. haley stevens. levin is the son of former congressman zander levin and nephew of carl levin. at least one more of their family has served in congress since 1979, a run that will come to an end in january. that rare incumbent versus incumbent primary matchup was the result of a redistricting plan that merged portions of their current districts. with more voters coming from stevens current testimony. keep it right here because congress woman stevens will join "morning joe" live later this morning. >>> now let's go out west to arizona. in the gop primary for governor, the race between karrin taylor robson and kari lake is too early to call. as expected, lake prematurely declared victory last night in phoenix despite her trailing at

congressional district 3, the incumbent, peter meijer is drilling now by about less than 2,000 votesr the trump backed gibbs and that is a really tight race that we are watching. if you go back here to michigan, and other ways that we watched throughout the night, it was a runaway. due to dixon, winning the republican primary, he'll face incumbent democratic governor, gretchen whitmer, and finally taking you back one more time to missouri and another way that again was a blowout. eric schmidt, the attorney general that running away with this over two opponents in missouri. he will face the democrats who surprise some people, bush valentine beating the progressives in missouri. that will be the head-to-head there. shannon. >> shannon: it is a busy night. along with all these candidates, these fibers, there were some game questions that voters went to the ballot box or tonight, especially in the wake of that reversal of roe v. wade by the supreme court. what's happening on that front? the kansas. the question was raised yes or no, no, do you want the state constitution -- should there

>> so, sarah, michigan congressman peter meijer is one of ten house members to vote for trump's second impeachment, and democrats have attempted to boost his election denying opponent. explain that one, please. [applause] >> this is an indication of how much democrats want to be able to hold on to the house. they want that seat to flip into the democratic column, and it's clear that they are willing to spend money on an election denier to do that. this has been a huge point of frustration to peter meijer who says, you know, you see democrats out there talking about how people who are election deniers are a threat to democracy, a threat to america, and yet, here, democrats are propping up his opponent, and election denier in the race, don. >> thank, you sara. standby. i want to get to jeff zeleny, in missouri. big news where you are. tell us about the senate race. >> that's correct, don. we are projecting eric schmidt who is the missouri attorney general will be the winner here in the republican senate contest. the big story, though, of course, is a former missouri -- he is trying for a

meijer came very close.other two on the ballot last night, out in washington state. remember, washington state does its primaries different. top two primary, democrats, republicans, they run on the same ballot. the top two, regardless of party, advance to the general election. so where do we stand? one of two republicans to vote for impeachment, jaime herrera butler, you see the democratic candidate is going to advance. herrera beutler does have a lead over the race. that is joe kent. herrera beutler. we're going to get updates that maybe a while before this is settled in washington. but that's encouraging for her, she's helped by the fact we've got other candidates, how do you say, jon, a very conservative republican, there was a lot of money thrown into her, herrera-beutler, though, very much alive. and the other pro-trump impeached republican, white, he's in the lead, the democrat a point behind him. this is warren culp down here, this is the trump-backed republican in this district. ewe got newhouse on t

she is very critical of democrats are going after peter meijer, the republican congressman, basically she should, as she should have been. >> this is the kind of republican you too has the kelly guys want more of. it really is -- frustrations here. understandably, stop telling me you want more people like meyer and kinzinger and cheney. and then democrats throwing up blood money into their campaigns. if i'm a democratic donor i am appalled that you used my money to do that. but it might not work out. >> alice, you heard what liz cheney was talking about. can her fidelity to the constitution. can republican stand up to the constitution and donald trump at the same time? >> we have to. we have to do so. and hats off to casey for a great interview. and it was really great to see her acknowledge, she is willing to lose her house seat, for what is best for this country. >> you can stand up for the constitution and donald trump at the same time? >> rational republicans are doing just that. we saw mike pence do so on january 6th. rational republicans realize that we have to really make sure

we saw john gibbs defeating peter meijer, someone who was a republican who voted to impeach donald trump. i think that tells us two things. one, the trump grip on the party is still a very real thing. but two, we've seen the lengths that democrats are willing to go to to try to keep control of the house in november. you know, they played a significant part in boosting john gibbs, an election denier, and making it achiefable for him to -- achievable for him to oust peter meijer. the other race is the governor's race. we saw tudor dixon who was the establishment candidate sail to victory after she picked up donald trump's endorsement. you know, another good indication of how he still has this sway with the base. and she has kind of been a little bit cagey on the election denial issue. you know, she said previously that she believes that the 2020 election in michigan was stolen from donald trump, which of course as we know is not true. and she's kind of backed away from those claims in recent days. she's already started to pivot to i think this general election message. i think it's no doub

peter meijer, in michigan republican voted to impeach donald trump.is not a liberal republican, he's a republican. but he did the right thing by trump. democrats spent a lot of money getting its opponent elected, an election denier, because they forget the opponent would be easier to defeat in the general election then peter meijer was. and that worked. the opponent one, peter meijer lost his primary. why do you think that? that is some strategic voting that could work for democrats, or could go really wrong, could get another election denier elected to congress. >> yeah i think it is a very dangerous tactic. and i would absolutely condemn, if they were doing that in a gubernatorial, a secretary of state, or a attorney general spot, for the reasons we just talked about. you can't put election deniers in charge of elections, and you can't risk that one of these people who you say will never when. i think we went down the road with trump on that one, will somehow be defeated the general election. as far as the congressional seats go, again, you have to

gibbs ends up getting elected in the words of peter meijer, with an historically unpopular president and inflation, at 40-year highs, less electable doesn't mean unelectable. have you not helped an election denier get into congress? >> again, this danger didn't start with mr. gibbs. by every measure, he's the weaker candidate. don't take my word for it. the political report says it is far more likely the democrats will win that seat now because we're doing our job. let's remember peter meijer, was an anti-choice extremist who was going to vote to have jim jordan run the judiciary committee, investigate hunter biden, there is some other silliness when what we need to do is keep up climate change, helping seniors with health care. >> look, on the democratic side of the aisle saying, hey, republicans need to stand up to their own party and put country over party and someone like peter meijer does and voted to impeach the president, and put his political career on the line, look, i understand the strategic decision that you made, but you have seen our poll. there is a reason everybody ha

let's remember, both peter meijer and john gibbs want to take away a woman's right to choose.other words, people can disagree about tactics, that is normal. and there are always complicated questions in politics. >> the bottom line, we are closer today than we were on monday, to having a pro-choice majority in the house. and the big losers this week are the maga republicans who thought they are on a glide path to the majority. but we have a surprise for them. we are winning today in the united states senate. we wanted veterans health care last week. we will win next week on a plan to reduce climate emissions by 40% in eight years. we will we do's prescription drug costs, and the roe v wade choice between a party, the democrats, we will keep your rights and your freedoms and a maga will take it away. it energizes our voters. you know in kansas, we won on that ballot initiative in 14 counties that donald trump won in 2020. this electorate looks more like 2018 every day. democrats are getting jazzed up. we will vote, we will win. >> okay. congressman maloney. i hear you. i hope t

peter meijer was one who stood up and powe posed to impeach president trump. who believe fundamentally in our democratic system, and so i think it's -- you know, it's inexplicable and wrong for the democrats to be funding election deniers, particularly against one of the ten republicans who so bravely stood up and did the right thing. >> considering your past political career, your family, i mean, do you find it to be strange bed fellows to be working with democrats the way you have, on the committee across party lineser, when you've encouraged democrats in wyoming to vote for you? >> well, i think they're separate things. i think certainly when you look at what's happening on the select committee, what's happening in congress, it is weird. you know, i did not anticipate certainly that any of the things that have happened since january 6th would happen. i think it's been a really important experience, and i think it's been really important both -- and mostly because of the work we've been able to do together for the country, and i think it's been an important

meijer will lose his seat. democrats had a hand in this.money trying to promote gibbs, trying to get him the nomination because this district is very competitive in the general election. democrats are thinking they have a better chance of beating gibbs than mejier. how can you spend money actually trying to put him in a position where he could get into a position of power? anyway, democrats spent the money, gibbs wins and advances to the general election. that is a republican who voted to impeach trump who is going to lose his seat. there are two republicans in washington state, i can just show you this, who voted to impeach trump. top two primary in washington state, both parties on the same ballot, top two advance to the next election. third district, a democrat has won, you got jamie herrera butler, she leads the trump-backed candidate. and newhouse, a lot of votes still to come. that's the republican who voted to impeach trump. you may in these top two primaries in washington see a pair of republicans advance to the general despite voti

michigan congresswoman peter meijer one of ten house republicans to vote to impeach trump during his second impeachment lost his primary for re-election. apparently this is the state of things. while election deniers are doing pretty well, those who stood up to power and told the truth, particularly the republican party, lost. joining us now is jocelyn benson, michigan secretary of state. madam secretary, thank you for being here today. thanks for your testimony. you and i have had had many chances to discuss it but very personal for you and that's not the part we often talk about but you're going to stay in this race, in this business, but there are people who are leaving it, there are people in lower positions, volunteer positions, or paid positions, in elections across this country, who are saying that kind of pressure, those kinds of threats, people coming to our house, it's too much, i can't be part of this. >> that's what is happening right now. some of us are feeling emboldened, and what i saw in michigan's primary this week, were election workers standing fix, and proudly. --

peter meijer, a republican congresswoman in michigan, who voted to impeach donald trump.mocrats got involved in his election, they tried to help his far-right opponent. and it worked. that guy won. what is your take on that strategy? democrats are thinking let's get far-right candidates to be the general, and we can get behind them. >> yeah, it's cynical and be careful what you wish for. it's hippocratic on one line to say that election denial poses an existential threat to democracy. and then wink wink, let's spend $450,000 boosting this trumpist nut ball because he'll be easily to beat. not necessarily. it's gonna cost something. and i guess the cynicism here is that the democratic congressional committee spent more money boosting john gibbs who defeated peter meijer, then gibbs'whole campaign. the democrats spend about 100 -- [inaudible] >> i'm afraid we lost charlie. i want to take a guess. maybe he was ending that sentence with, maybe we need a little campaign finance reform? just a guess. charlie sykes, thank you so much. i'm sorry we lost a signal. when we come bac

that is john meijer on the left, the resistance fighter. and those are the 2000 on recommendations being handed to nixon. he handed them to me to be implemented, but then meijer and i sat down at his desk. this is a lead into something else. >> before we leave food and food stamps, nixon, in his main speech, proposed radical change in the food stamps. at that point, it was not in every county of the united states, at all. there was no uniform eligibility standard or requirements for levels of assistance. he changed all of that and created the food stamp program, which became the first true income guarantee. it was in contested, poor families didn't have to pay anything if they simply had no money, no cash by food stamps. that was the way the next thing unrolled. it was one of the few things that he undertook that has stayed with us. it is the snap program now. some nutritional assistance program, it feeds tens of millions of american people. but in that christmas eve meeting, that dr. meyer and i had with nixon, this is really important. ye

peter meijer's losing as well. what does that tell you about people's perception of election integrity, both in this country, and the state of michigan? >> it says two things. one, we have to remember it's a primary, not a general election. when the full electorate participates, i expect to see a rejection of the lies and conspiracy theories that have really been furthered just by one political party over the last several years. with a political agenda. it also shows just how deep those lies and conspiracies have seeped into our major political parties, to the extent that we are seeing. nominees from those parties gain nominations based on lies. they are willing to continue spreading those lies, despite mountains of evidence that our elections are secure, and the results are accurate. >> the new michigan republican nominee for governor disagrees with you there. tutor dixon has criticize you recently, saying quote, we have to make sure that our elections are secure. and what happened in 2020 does not happen again. t

not spending a lot of money on bureaucracy but when i think when it comes to your committee in new meijer already, -- new majority, you have really got to staff up and i think one of your first challenges is to convince the fellow member of your majority this committee is going to need a lot of resources. you have all the subcommittees but i don't know how you're going to choose between found she and vaccines, big tech censorship, not following voting walls and not following voter id. there is the last stop from hell. there is a lot of other corruption. there is an open southern border. i think the problem is there is a lot on your shoulders to adjudicate this but it is going to be a big effort. >> we are talking as a conference if we win the majority how we will do that. ways and means committee, armed service committee. >> we do have a broad jurisdiction. we will look at a lot of this. six weeks ago i asked dr. birx was the witness. >>>> she is the one with the scarf. >> i asked her a question. i asked her first question. i said when the biden administration told us the vaccinated could

peter meijer came in as a freshman. one of his first votes was to impreach donald trump.n republican primary here by an opponent who said meyer betrayed republicans with that vote and democrats have poured in huge money to try to boost peter meyer's opponent in this primary. so he's in deep trouble today. again all stemming from that vote to impeach trump. >> steve kornacki with the races to watch. thank you very much. good to see you, we'll see you again real soon. up good to see you. we'll see you again soon. a look at some of the stories making front page news. >>> plus, an interesting story playing out right now in hollywood where sylvester stallone is quite angry at the producers of the latest installment of the rocky franchise. we'll explain that ahead on "morning joe." i'm a fancy exercise bike noobie. instructor: come on! a little more! and i'm taking a detour. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could be working this out yourself. so get allstate. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala reduc

to know, peter meijer voted to impeach donald trump after the january 6th insurrection.nd that there are difficult moral questions philosophical questions about tactics. that's always true in politics. you better believe it. but here's the deal. we are more likely to win that seat. john gibbs is a weak opponent, extremist, a vicious antichoice record, he can't string a set of policies together that will make sense for western michigan. we will win that seat. we believe that by keeping those dangerous people out of power, we address the larger moral imperative, and that is our job. >> keith, i think in campaigns that you have to make a decision about lines that you are and are not willing to cross, and frankly i think, and not only in this race but in other races, did he try across the line here? your thoughts? >> yeah, i was hoping you would not ask me about this one. it's a risky strategy and there's always a chance that it may not work and what happens if you end up electing these radical right-wing republican maga candidates because you thought you were's -- this is t

democrats spent a whole bunch of money trying to unseat congressman peter meijer.hat effort? >> i think that was terrible. i think that peter meijer was one of ten of us who stood up, who voted to impeach president trump, who did it based on facts and evidence. and i think that all of us, again, across party lines have got to make sure that we are supporting people who believe in our democratic system. so i think it is inexplicable and wrong for the democrats to be funding election deniers, particularly against one of the ten republicans who so bravely stood up and did the right thing. >> considering your past political career and your family, do you find it to be strange bedfellows to be working with democrats and you've encouraged democrats to vote here in wyoming for you. >> i think there are separate things. i think certainly when you look at what happening is on the select committee and in congress, it is weird. it is -- i did not anticipate certainly that any of the things that have happened since january 6 would happen. i think it is been a really important