ransom was starring mel gibson. he was carrying the movie. both truman and wallace were movies that relied heavily on performance and i had to really step up. mark: and you've pretty much moved on to what is your passion, the troops, the police, the firefighters, the vets. before we get into that, does that mean you're forever abandoning acting? >> no, no, i can't say that. i'm going to do a small part this summer in a film that directored wanted me to do, very small part. but it's in hawaii. mark: do you have another part? i'll come with you. but your real focus now is on the other, correct? >> yes. yeah. mark: and you -- is that a determination you made or this just came about or some point of your life you said i really want to focus on my foundational activity and so forth and so on and can do a little bit of acting but can't do a whole lot of both? >> well, there's a blessing that i've had which is some success in the movie business and television business. i was on television on two television series, one for nine years, the other for t