the melania thing i heard at the time that melania goes out and does an interview where she says thaterview. i can't remember if it's in his hostage statement that night. i can't remember if he uses it but she does an interview. they get her to do an interview and she uses that line in an interview she does i think maybe after the debate. that is their line. tragically, because the other stories stay silent in their minds they think it does work. >> the melania question is kind of important on this point because melania will, through the questioning of defense, they will try to use her as a reason donald trump wanted these things to not come out. what you are seeing their is melania trump and this testimony will be uncontested, donald trump will not take the witness stand and say melania didn't say that, melania will not take the witness stand and say she didn't say that. it will be uncontested in the record. this is melania trump after seeing what -- how donald trump brags about his favorite method of sexual assault. this is worse than what you are learning about stormy daniels, this

something that melania had recommended .r at least, he told me that that is what melania had thought it was. use that to get control over the story and minimize its impact on him and the campaign. >> and what, if anything, did you do at that point to try to assist campaign with that of her? >> i reached other members of the media. >> he told cohen that the locker room talk defense which became the defense, that span about what the access hollywood tape is all about, michael cohen said trump told him it was his wife's idea that it was melania phrase, locker room talk. the other thing that's important about this exchange beside that bazaar assertion is it shows that michael cohen was not a rogue employee. he was not a solo operator, especially on issues like things that related to alleged infidelity, michael cohen was part of if not leading the whole team response. that was made clear in this exhibit that was filed for the first time in court today. it's right before the election, november 8 and this was november 4. this email

wasn't thinking about melania.r statement than that. now, that's, this is going to be important the judge is going to instruct on this. nothing the trump lawyers said in the opening is evidence. everything that the witnesses said is evidence. the defense attorneys cross- examination questions are not evidence. so what the cross-examination questions are going to be is, you lied about that didn't you. and cohen is going to go, no. and that you lied about it isn't evidence. they cannot and will not put donald trump on the witness stand who is the only person alive who could give evidence on what cohen said. he could say i didn't tell him to do it. i didn't reimburse him. trump would have to give you that in direct testimony from the defense. he's not going to. so the likelihood is you're going to go the jury with nothing but the evidence presented by the prosecution. >> you think it's a 0% chance that trump testifies. >> zero, it has to be. >> we'll have to hear what cohen had to say about the trump world by name. as

trump wasn't concerned about melania's reaction. "he wasn't thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign." cohen adding mr. trump told him, "i want you to just push it out as long as you can. just get past the election. because if i win it will have no relevance and if i lose i don't even care." cohen testifying that he told mr. trump he would pay daniels as part of a non-disclosure agreement, opting to use money from a home equity line of credit, and mr. trump was appreciative, saying words to the effect of "don't worry, you'll get the money back." the state trying to show the daniels payoff wasn't isolated but part of a pattern. cohen admitting he secretly recorded his client while they discussed repaying the "national enquirer," which purchased the story of another woman who said she had sex with mr. trump, which he denies. >> when it comes time for the financing, which will be -- >> wait a sec, what financing? >> well, i'll have to pay him something. >> pay with cash. >> reporter: prosecutors have presented no direct evidence mr. trump knew about or to

"he wasn't thinking about melania," cohen said. "this was all about the campaign." trump claims he never had sex with the born star, but cohen insisted trump gave him clear directions -- pay daniels to keep quiet, saying, "there's no reason to keep this thing out there. just do it." cohen said he took out a home equity line of credit to cover the $130,000 payment and told trump, "i was going to front the money for it, to which he was appreciative. he stated to me 'don't worry about it. you'll get the money back.'" and cohen testified he fully expected to be reimbursed, saying, "i would not lay out $130,000 for an nondisclosure agreement needed by somebody else." on the very day he wired the money to daniels, 12 days before the election, he said he called trump for final sign-off. "i wanted to ensure that he approved what i was doing because i required approval from him on all of this," cohen testified. "everything -- on top of that, i wanted the money back." as soon as they got off the phone, cohen walked across the street and wired the money. jurors today seeing ph

trump to hide them from melania trump. but his campaign, and they got into that a little bit with michael cohen today. so this is susan hoffinger, the prosecutor saying questioning michael cohen when dylan howard and that's the editor in chief, national enquirer told you on the evening of october 8, 2016, that stormy daniels was out looking well her manager was out looking to sell her story. did you know who stormy daniels was at that time? michael cohen says, i did. hoffinger. how did you know who she was? >> cohen? >> because it was referenced back to the 2011 scenario that i dealt with previously with david pecker. the publisher of the national enquirer on i'm sorry. with keith davidson, stormy daniel's is attorney in order to have a story removed from the dirty.com that's a blog so hearing now, after the access hollywood tape release, that her story might come out again, what if anything, did you think about the potential impact that might have on the campaign, michael cohen says catastrophic, that is horrible for this

this is melania's "love & gratitude" necklace.ou can see it is in the form of a three-leaf clover, because when you're donald trump's wife, you don't believe in luck. [ laughter ] the back of the necklace features the former first lady's signature, which is alarmingly similar to her husband's. hey both look like the printout from an ekg of someone having a heart attack. [ laughter ] and that's not the only trump family trinket for sale. >> this mother's day, celebrate mom with first america lady, a message she wants world to know. the melania trump eric is not my [ bleep ] son. celebrate mother you love with thing melania most proud of. not biegeric's mom. these exquisite necklaces make statements straight from melania's heart, like, "i barely even know eric." "he's ivana,'s not mine." and of course, "eric who?" melania is proud mother of barron trump and barron trump alone. and nobody with face of sad possum. order now and receive clump of hair melania found in seat, absolutely free. tell mother you love her with melania trump "e

he doesn't want melania to see them. trump doesn't say my gosh, what's discounted into my presidential campaign? i'll never be president. what trump says is keep the newspapers away from my house. i don't want melania to see this. basically i'm in marital trouble here. and that's why this whole case is should not have been prosecuted in the first place. it's clear that businessmen do this for their families. they do it for their brand and what the feds are trying to prove is he just did this this time for the campaign. no it wasn't. the amazing part is all of these misdemeanours are beyond the statute of limitations. they are no way prosecutable now but for a felony about which we know nothing that they've attached 2. so the whole thing is a kangaroo court and the gag order in particular is ridiculous. like i've issued gag order's just like judge marchand took as a da my office has been gagged. i get it. but you cannot gag 1 party and not the other party. especially when 1 party is running for president of the united sta

he is wasn't thinking about melania. he was thinking about the campaign. >> they're having michael cohen lay out every conversation he had, every step he took after the access hollywood tape, after the daniels story, then what conversations he had with donald trump, what donald trump hold him to do. the defense is going to argue, well, this is really not about a campaign. it was to protect his personal life, his wife. this is damaging to the relationship. this is the prosecution trying to knock that down. they've done that before with other witnesses. donald trump saying i'm worried about my wife and people have testified it was really more about his personal image in this case. and michael cohen says it was about the campaign. we are building to the moment where michael cohen makes a payment then meets him in the oval office after the election says are you going to pay me back then the series of checks that pay michael cohen back. not just the $130,000 but the $130,000 plus the taxes he had to pay on it, right? >> right

>> i don't think we're going to see melania trump accompanying titled to court melania is melania's home person in regards again, to a marriage that you want to consider to be something that most people are trying to still understand, don't i do not see her supporting him this way because she is not someone who i think that you can feel that humiliation without having to put yourself in front of the cameras milan, everything. melania's does is staged. so everything is articulated in a way for her before or she does her interviews. so everything like i said, is very strategically planned. she is not going to put herself in a position where she's given anyone the opportunity to say anything negative about her. >> all right. stephanie winston woke off. thank you so much for your time and your insights and the court is reconvening michael cohen is back in the witness box. the judge has called for the jury to be brought back into the courtroom. donald trump is back in the courtroom kasie hunt the insights provided by a stephanie winston walk off former friend of melania trump certainly add to

to say donald trump really didn't care that much about what melania thought. this is a little bit of an excerpt. it also has a zinger about the timing here. cohen says during the negotiation of purchase and acquire the life, right what he had said to me is what i want you to do is just push it out. this is the stormy daniels payment. as long as you can just get past the election. because if i win it has no relevance. i will be president if i lose, i don't even care, then the prosecutor says, good, you bring up at the time the topic of his wife melania, and one of those conversations cohen says, i did hoffinger. what did you say in substance to him? cohen says i said to him. and how's things going to go with the upstairs? half of your says, were you concerned about that? cohen says, i was hoffinger says and what, if anything, did he say to you about that? otherwise, the upstairs meaning what's happening, we believes what what's happening with the family, what's happened? putting with the mrs. upstairs in trump tower? yes. so then cohen says don't worry, he goes

>> he wasn't thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign. >> michael cohen on the witness stand dislike donald trump in aa. michael cohen was once in many ways as bad as donald trump. threatening people. acting in a gangster like way. on the witness stand today, he was a different person. he said something donald trump would never say, could never say. he used a phrase, donald trump could never use. when michael cohen talked about wanting to at least be considered for white house chief of staff which he admitted he was not qualified for, he said he just wanted to be on the list. kind of publicly on the list. he wanted people to think he was being considered for the job of white house chief of staff., quote, solely for my ego. that is a line donald trump could never speak. solely for my ego. it explains everything donald trump does. every breath he takes, but donald trump could never admit anything like that. the way michael cohen admitted that today. that is the new michael cohen. who sees his ego now was one

this was about melania finding out. this wasn't about the election. this was about melania.hat's the story they want the jury to read, at least one, to hang it. without her there helping to project that story, that weaken -- >> the defense is trying to paint him as a family man. >> if their point is that donald trump wanted to keep this from melania, then sticking her in the courtroom to listen to this is -- doesn't that undercut that? >> no. the reason is because she's already listening to it. everybody knows it. it's a news story. how is she being protected from it? i'm not saying it's easy or comfortable. any time you see high profile criminal trials where there's an issue that really goes to, is this defendant someone who is heinous and will do heinous things or is this defendant someone who can be humanized to a jury, relatable? that's what family members do. i totally hear you and i would feel this way if i was melania. guess why i wouldn't want to be this this courtroom? i'm going to slap this man in the back of the head as i'm sitting behind that jury box making face

. >> how do you think melania's going to react to this? and donald trump's response, i'm still trying to get over it was how long do you think i'll be on the market? for which means if she were to leave me, i'm a hot commodity. i'm i'm a hot ticket here. that doesn't seem to me to give away any real concern. the donald trump had about whether melania heard about this or not? now again, it came from michael cohen. i'm sure it will be challenged, but it was quite a striking comment. >> but that's something that has nothing to do with the heart of the matter except of course, the jury can. that's very personal thing. so i'm anxious to see if that's followed up. in cross-examinati on of our i mean, like la was saying, i mean without question most trials, but in this one particularly the most interesting is cross-examinatio n, not directing had to do with the heart the trial which is did they do this for the campaign and not melania that does go to the heart of the trust me, that's the most interesting thing he said this morning as well. michae

cohen says he wasn't thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign. >> this was a remarkable we'll moment. we're getting these updates from reporters inside the room. and this is one that makes you pause for a moment because it was essentially michael cohen who is very enamored by the former first lady and went to apologize directly later on at the white house, they had a lunch after he lied to her about the stormy daniels affair and the allegation and the cover up of it. >> but this moment to hear i mean, it's michael cohen's word that we're going off of. but to hear him say that donald trump was essentially saying he could get married again. so easily that it wasn't a problem if she was upset by this. i mean, that was remarkable because also we know this turned into donald trump did win the white house bill on a trump renegotiated are prenup and refuse to move to washington until it was done. and he is if you talk to people, he's terrified of melania trump's, she's the one person whose opinion he actually holds in hi

this is a text message from melania to me, michael cohen to melania.ood morning, michael, can you please call d.t. on his cell. thanks. michael cohen says, of course, and then hoffinger asks, did you speak to donald trump after on october 18th, and cohen responds, we'll get it at any moment now. we're going to find out. we're going to wait and see how this document uploads. interesting there was a text message between melania trump asking michael cohen to call donald trump. d.t. is what everyone calls him. yes, he did speak to donald trump after the october 18th call. hoffinger asks on the day or evening, did you make an appearance on wolf blitzer's show. cohen said, i did, in order to respond to a series of topics that affected mr. trump on the campaign. >> so he's juggling a lot of different things at this moment, michael cohen is. i want to bring in jay lee miles, with 40 years of experience as a trial consultant, an expertise in jury selection and witness preparation. she has worked on many high profile cases, including michael jackson, r. kelly an

saying that melania trump had, that melania trump reading some of her text messages related to the access and how in a very familiar story for trump in many of his scandals built in self and a heap of trouble by not paying people. those were the moments that kind of set the tone of the day. but, the star of the testimony, i would say, was not the present star witness, michael cohen, but the pile of evidence that corroborated every call, every text message, every tweet, every tape that was placed into evidence. and, he would probably more accurately be described as a central witness being the guide then the star witness. >> andrew, the issue of michael cohen's credibility, what i keep wondering about is applied to what? what exactly, he sent $130,000.00 to stormy daniels. it doesn't matter, his credibility doesn't matter, it is all, the papers are there. we have it all. there is a reimbursement structure to him. he says that his reimbursement. there is no other theory of what it is. and, there will probably not be another theory of what it is introduced in evidence. sure, in cross-examinat

we've seen one image of melania voting with him in the floridian primary. is a different race for donald trump. for thinks children, things have changed. as one person said to me, donald trump now, versus 2015? a whole different world. >> juju: the biden camp has been fairly muted about all of the criminal cases as they proceed, and yet tonight, they issued a statement saying that many ways, this campaign is increasingly unhinged and that a second trump term means chaos. what does this signal to you? >> i think there's a reason why that statement came from a campaign spokesman, not the president himself. they have tried to keep their distance from these case because they don't want to further the narrative that former president trump is some sort of political mart stir. i think in this phase of the campaign it's important for them to try to define the choice for american voters between themselves and former president trump. and this case, this conviction, is going to be a big part of that. >> juju: and john, you have mentioned repeatedly that he will go hom

he wasn't thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign cohen walked the court through the process of creating several llcs in order to transfer payment to daniels, cohen had to front the money himself and used a home equity line of credit because it was paperless. so he could hide it from his wife. >> i was doing everything i could and more to protect my boss which is something that i had done for a long time. >> cohen testified that on october 28, he immediately called trump after daniel sign the agreement, telling him that this matter is now completely under control and locked down. cohen said in early 2017, he tried to get repaid for the money he fronted to daniels i needed trump organization cfo allen weisselberg's input for questions about taxes. cohen said he would be reimbursed over the course of the next 12 months disguising the payment as like a legal service rendered since i was then going to be given the title of personal attorney to the president there's no fraud there's no bryan here cohen will

and sarah, the thing that's him was his wife, melania trump.e or she was talking to anderson cooper he described it as, as locker room talk to you. i mean, you sort of alluded to that as well. is that what it is two, you just locker room talk? >> yeah. i i kind of two teenage boys actually, they should behave better, right it was 59 correct and sometimes i said i have two boys at home. i have my young son and i have my husband so but i know how some men talk and that's how i saw it, yes. >> and so that in october right before the election is what gives trump a lifeline with women. sarah matthews so cohen testifies to this yesterday he was asked by the prosecutor, did you bring up at the time the topic of his wife melania, in one of those conversations with mr. trump. >> and again, we're talking about the access hollywood period as all the stormy daniel's stuff is going down. cohen says, i did. what, if anything, did he say to you about that? the prosecutor asks cohen, don't worry. he goes he goes how long do you think i will be on the market fo

i did have a lot of the personal conversations with melania. want to have the newspapers delivered to the residents, it made me smile. it sound like something he would think of. melania watches the news like crazy. she keeps track of everything. she's on her phone all the time. she never read hard newspapers like he did. that made me kind of smile that that was one of his, you know, i don't know ways to hide it from her. it was never going to happen. >> it sound like we all know how much donald trump follows the news, right, and it's clear just if you follow him in any way, he seems to know everything that everyone says about him at all times, but i think melania trump, the idea that someone who's her husband thought that something could be hidden to her is almost, i don't want to say laughable on its face but makes no sense. >> yeah, it's silly. it makes me smile. she consumes media just as much as him. he likes to have the newspapers in his hands. every morning, he had "the new york times," "wall street journal," et cetera. she not so much, b

trump melania's and baron to unquote. and donald trump responded to what marjorie taylor greene had told him apparently, saying on truth, social, his social media site wow, i just came out of the biden witch hunt trial in manhattan, the ice box. and we show them reports that crooked joe biden's doj and they're illegal and unconstitutional rate of mar-a-lago authorized the fbi to use deadly lethal force. now, we know for sure that joe biden is a serious threat. to democracy, unquote. now, the scene, in fact, checkers got to work and they looked and found that the instructions use during this mar-a-lago search are in fact standard language taken straight from the justice department's manual, basically, a copy and paste the fbi responded to these allegations saying, quote, the fbi followed standard protocol in this search, as we do for all search warrants, which includes a standard policy statement limiting the use of deadly force. no one ordered additional steps to be taken. and there was no departure from the norm in this

a couple of months ago and wrote a book on first lady ship and what she was saying is that melania has always seen this as donald trump's, this trial as donald trump's issue, not hers. that being said, it it obviously has made her angry at times, going back to january 28, contain when reports of this hush money payment we're we're still being revealed one thing that i think you should watch is will this impact the public support melania trump has for donald trump moving forward as the campaign rolls on we've seen at times when there's been tension or its approval that melania has had signs of showing public disapproval of donald trump going back to something completely different, but even with the border and wearing a shirt that it said showed some disapproval. so you know, that could be something to see could the outcome of this trial impact whether or not melania trump shows up at campaign events answer shows up with donald trump moving forward on the campaign trail and shows public support. >> do you think that impacts what i'm interested in? >> what was notable to me was i think th

i can understand why melania didn't, to be honest with you. hush money case and the whole notion of donald having this sexual relationship, not just with stormy daniels, but karen mcdougal as well. i am sure melania was trying to preserve her own sense of identity and maybe protect baron as well. >> if you want to treat that decision with the honor i think it deserves that a human level, you wouldn't invoke melania trump repeatedly, which they did, including blaming her for coming up with the locker room talk defense to access hollywood. >> right. >> you are getting wet/and i know i will make it -- you are getting wet/and i know i will make it worse. >> hi, i have a question about the actual last witness in the case. on the defense case, bob costello, and we all got to read a series of emails, some of which you were on and some were happening behind your back. which i think the jury was led to believe and probably concluded that this was this huge effort that was undertaken by him, by rudy giuliani and by defendant trump to keep you from coope

. >> stormy prosiguio diciendo que al preguntarle por melania, el le dijo que no se preocupara porquea habitacion momento en el que trump cerro los ojos movio la cabeza diciendo no y murmuro a sus abogados. >> no me dio nada ni dinero. >> tampoco expreso ninguna preocupacion acerca de que su esposa se enterara y no me pidio que lo mantuviera confidencial, dijo stormy. >> la defensa pidio pueda p preguntarle por no dormian en la ojos, movio a sus dinero. >> tampoco su y fue denegado por el juez. >> trump publico en su red, la fiscalia que no tiene un caso ha ido demasiado lejos, anulacion. >> durante el turno de la d defensa la cuestionaron si contar una historia sobre el presidente que no incluyera s sexo, no le haria ganar dinero y respondio que solo queria decir la verdad. >> de los 34 cargos criminales por falsificacion de documentos relacionados a los pagos de silencio, trump se ha declarado no culpable. >> de nueva york carla estabas en la sala lo viste todo, como fue la interaccion entre trump y stormy daniels. >> julio, pues realmente parecia que parecia que en todo momento tra

melania. >> brian: people speculate in differential way. >> charlie: yeah. it's so hard to take. we have to cover these trials and it's so hard to take some of the prosecutors' arguments seriously like this is somehow a campaign finance, whatever. but, just assuming that you're going to take them seriously. alvin bragg's case has blown up so many times, the idea they are now going to way for a serial perjurer, a disbarred attorney to come in. >> brian: hated by everybody. >> charlie: hated by everybody. >> ainsley: he was the key witness. >> charlie: as their key witness and we found out he was very upset about not being invited to the white house. >> brian: almost suicidal. >> charlie: to work in the white house. that's going to save your case? i don't see that happening. >> ainsley: in all of that, the jury will hear all of that. >> charlie: you never know what the george bush. >> ainsley: you never know it's a new york jury. fox news alert fox weather alert. we expect big stories across the midwest. let's check in rick reichmuth for fox weather forecast.

we passed a room, and he said this is melania's room.e time or to get away to read or something like that. i'm like, oh, okay. that's when i kind of thought, maybe they're having issues. i didn't ask. it's not my business at that point. >> michael, karen mcdougal also said she was also compared to ivanka. weird. your thoughts. >> yeah, i mean, it does certainly corroborate for us what stormy daniels was saying. i mean, i knew that karen mcdougal had said they slept in separate bedrooms at trump tower. the jury is not going to hear about that. that's really the relevant part, but i think that all of these sort of very detailed testimony that you heard today, stormy daniels giving about her time in the hotel suite, was as the prosecutor told the judge, you know, he was saying it's too much, too much, the pajamas. but the purpose was to show the jury that this actually happened, to convince them, because even though it's not necessarily directly relevant to whether he falsified business records, the whole notion that he was doing this to co

having to prod him, do you remember anything during that conversation about melania, for example.ally evocative of many of the conversations so far. >>> one of things sifts fascinated is watching rashen taking mesh of the man. none of the participants looked like the way they did in the original film. michael cohen is no exception. he is grayer, thinner, quieter, and while merchon way was trying to find a take on this witness, and yet, the guy we saw this morning was credible and calm, if not a little freaked out and very nervous to be there this morning. >> lisa, you've seen him testifies in the other kay, the fraud case, so what's your expectation to when he's cross emphasize examined? >> if past is prologue, katy, i'm expecting michael cohen to keep a tighter lid on himself. you're right, in the last rodeo between these two people, michael cohen was also not the same, that was just a few months ago. he seems well prepared for this moment. whether he can continue to keep a lid on his temper, but also accept responsibility and give answers that are painful to him. for example, he

she said trump told her to make sure newspapers didn't get delivered to his apartment so melania trump wouldn't find out. meanwhile, trump has now paid the court $9,000 as a fine after being held in contempt for violating the gag order in this case, and today the judge reiterated trump can testify, despite the gag order, after

about melania. this was all about the campaign. trump smirks and shakes his head. >> trump is noticeably paying more attention as they are getting seeing into this back-and-forth. he's looked up at the towards the witness stand, which shove already had not been doing. i've been going through papers and looking at the screens and closing his eyes. michael cohen has also looked in the direction of the defense table a few times, which as we've noted, the witness can't actually see trump unless they lean forward. michael cohen said that, quote, donald trump was even thinking about melania. this was all well about his campaign that he raised millennia to donald trump. and trump said, don't worry, how long do you think i'll be on the market for not long oh oh, that's basically michael cohen saying that troubles are essentially arguing that if melania trump was upset over this to leave him that it wouldn't be problem, for him he find a fourth wife or fourth girlfriend. that's what it seems to be insinuatin

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>> he wasn't thinking about melania.s was all about the campaign abeer talking oscars over there. >> we say right now, it also illustrates the motivation for the payment, but it also have to think about the implication. let's dive into that, take it away, guys. >> can you read this email it's states michael, i've been charged by my client with forwarding the below message. >> we have we have a written settlement agreement which calls for settlement payment to be sent by the end of business this past friday, october 14th, 2016. no payment was received. we spoke on friday, october 14 and you stated that funds would be wired today, october 17, 2016 no funds have been received as of the sending of this email, my client informs me that she intends to cancel the settlement conduct drag if no funds are received by five pacific time pst today, please call me if you have any questions, keith, what was happening at this time with respect to this deal? >> my intent was to continue to delay it as per mr. trump's demand. and i clearl

that is not about melania or his family being upset. it's about the election. can i just address my friend bill here, who who he gets in trouble on social media for some of our conversations which he doesn't deserve we talked before we came on. you talked about michael cohen and his personality and veracity he and donald trump work together for ten years. i would say in a certain it's fair to say they were a match made in heaven for those ten years michael cohen conducted himself the way donald trump conducted himself. and i think jurors, you're the lawyer, jill, tell me they look at who's on the stand? their reaction goes beyond the evidence and the testimony there's common sense that goes into this and i think michael cohen has, by all accounts, his tone has been even he has said he was ashamed. he has apologize. i'm not saying it gets you all the way there. but i think it helps me. >> i agree with you on i know. >> thank but but here's a cycle of the last six or seven years with cohen. he lied to congress. he lied to the irs. he went to prison he came back.

what she said and testified to was that trump was very worried about melania hearing about this. and then she said he made sure that the newspapers were not delivered to the house. and said that he wanted to make sure his family was proud of his campaign. so you have all that on friday. now today i assume the prosecution is going to go through this entire sordid deal from 15, 20 years ago and probably go into it in detail, which i think is going to leave the defendant just absolutely fuming, andy, if i'm characterizing it that way correctly. is that the way today is going to go? >> i think that's right, bill. it will give the impression of methodically building a case when in fact what they are doing is stacking up a lot of evidence of stuff that's not illegal, which isn't all that hard to prove. but the point you make about the concern about embarrassing melania and embarrassing his family i think is important for a legal reason we should home in on and that is even if the state can prove that the entries on trump's books are false and he has got to push back on that as well, bu

with trump looking on, his son eric also in attendance, daniels said she asked trump about his wife, melania, and he said it wasn't an issue. don't worry about it, we actually don't sleep in the same room, according to daniels. trump was seen visibly shaking his head at the remark. daniels told prosecutors she had unprotected sex with speed which she described in part to "estimates" in 2016. >> donald trump turned around and took off his pants? >> yes. he turned around and pulled his pants down a little. he had underwear on and stuff, and i just gave him a couple swats. >> this was done in a joking manner? >> yes. from that moment on, he was a complete different person. >> reporter: daniels testified trump told her you remind me of your daughter, she is smart and beautiful and people underestimate her, as well. after the encounter, daniels said she was shaking so much that she was having a hard time getting dressed. is there any legal significance to the salacious details offered in her testimony? >> there is no legal significance to the salacious details in her testimony. but what it does d

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she doesn't testify about any of that. >> melania did come up.donald trump and hope hicks -- was it after the 2016 story on karen mcdougal -- >> "the wall street journal" story. >> yes. donald trump says to hope hicks, can you make sure the papers aren't delivered to the apartment today so melania doesn't see them? as if melania doesn't have a phone and doesn't call anybody, her only source of news is a physical newspaper. so she did mention -- i'm sure that donald trump's lawyers will mention that because they'll say his main concern was for melania. it's the only time any concern has been raised that donald trump had for melania. it was don't have the papers sent up to the apartment today. >> vaughn hillyard, this was the most dramatic day so far from perhaps someone with a lot of credibility in donald trump's eyes. what do you expect next? >> reporter: right, and just a jumping off point from this, if we step outside the guilty or innocent part of this trial, so much of the testimony that i've taken away from these last two weeks, and especial

had a right to defend his family, and they have really tried to focus on trump's caring from -- for melania. they asked hope hicks about him caring for his wife. there trying to focus on his reputation, his brand, his family. host: when it comes to the judge, how is he described? the way he is keeping things going and keeping things on track? >> pretty efficient. we have had a couple of -- he tries to get any sort of outstanding matters out-of-the-way the way first thing in the morning. trump is under a gag order in this case and has been sanctioned for violations. we are waiting to hear on a rule on some other alleged violations. but he is keeping things moving pretty quickly. yeah, keeping things moving pretty quickly. host: and if you had to take a sense of how the jury is taking this in, what would you say? >> they have been super engaged, taking notes, some look like they are sort of watching a tennis match, especially with hope hicks on friday. that did end up quite a dramatic note. at no point have any of them looked like they're wandering off or where their mind is elsewhere. everyb

he is saying no, his motivation was melania. he is also saying i did this on my own. he is basically contradicting the whole story impeaching all of the testimony and frankly undermining the entire case of the prosecution from top to bottom here. the jury needs to hear from bob costello. they need to watch your interview, to be very frank with you. they need to watch his congressional testimony and hear his opening statement which was equally devastating to me. when you put together all of this and you look at stormy daniels, for example. there was a lot of salacious innuendo in her joking and demeanor and so on and so forth. here is the problem. the biden donor judge allowed this to come up in this case. all of it is irrelevant. all of it is im material. none of it has anything to do with the rule of law or the charges at hand. all of this is based on quote a bookkeeping error that was a misdemeanor whose statute of limitations had passed and they try to upgrade this into a felony using this obscene and frankly unprecedented legal theory of theirs. none of the law ha

i can understand why melania did not, to be honest. hush money case in the notion of donald having this sexual relationship, not just with stormie daniels, but with l kar mcdougal as well. i'm sure melania was trying to preserve perrone sense of identity and maybe to protect barron as well. rr >> if you want to treat that decision with the honor think it deserves that a human level, you would ness trump's counsel invoke melania repeatedly. blaming her for coming up with the locker room talk defense. >> they introduce her to the jury. that's why wonder why she never showed up. >> andrew weissmann is also not in this room like lawrence is not in this room but wants to ask a question. andrew, you are allowed to ask michael cohen a question. >> hi, michael. hi, done you. i have a question about the actual last witness in the case on the defense case. bob costello. we all got to read a series of emails, some of which you are em on and some that were happening behind your back which i think, the jury were led to believe, probably concluded,

he's adjusting his pants. [ laughter ] i like that there's a wax figure of melania. that means every night, there are two melanias who won't sleep with donald trump. [ laughter ] there was no court on friday so trump could go to his son barron's high school graduation. you remember the one he was screaming about, saying the judge wouldn't let him attend? he was allowed to go to his son's graduation, and almost immediately fell asleep there too. [ laughter ] he sat down, closed his eyes. said wake me when they get to the letter "t." [ laughter ] on the way to the ceremony, trump posted this. "going to barron's high school graduation. great student, wonderful boy. very exciting. djt." what a beautiful, fatherly post. isn't that so? [ laughter ] personal. sounds like what you'd say to your schnauzer after it graduated obedience school. what a wonderful boy. the graduation was a private event. but there were photos of the proud parents. 54-year-old melania spent the ceremony wedged between her 77-year-old husband and her 80-year-old dad dressed like a gondolier in mourni