hemy's confidant, melanie white, testified it looked to her like andrea would wind hemy up, turning himhim all the way at the top, you know, just saying that this is the greatest, and we're soulmates, and having a great time out of town. and then coming back in town and texting him and saying, we can only have a business relationship, we can no longer do this. >> defense expert dr. adriana flores said this yo-yo effect strengthened the delusions that hemy was having. and, said the defense, in this altered state he would listen to andrea complain about rusty, how the children were shying away from him. >> their conversation or communication was saturated with discussions of the children, saturated with andrea sneiderman's complaints about her relationship with her husband. >> hemy thought something needed to be done, said his defense, especially when the demon, an apparition from his childhood, returned. he described it in this jailhouse interview. >> when you say big, how big? >> not as high as the ceiling. >> okay. >> but almost. >> all right. so -- >> like towering over me. >> hemy sa