>> commissioner melgar, i concur with commissioner melgar's comments and we've had our chance to do due diligence. >> i move to deny the request for jurisdiction based on all of the facts that there has been nothing presented that gives us any argument to take jurisdiction in this case. >> second. >> second. commissioner mar? >> there is a motion and a second to deny the request for jurisdiction. i will make a roll call vote on this item. president clinch? yes, vice-president melgar? yes, commissioner mar? yes, mccray, yes, mccarthy? yes, commissioner lee, yes. the motion passes. >> item f for general comment for items not on the agenda. >> seeing none, we will move to item g, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> move to adjourn. >> second. >> is there any public comment in a motion to adjourn. everyone in favor? aye. any opposed? we are now adjourned as the abatement appeals board. we'll take a ten minute recess and reconvene as the building inspection commission. thank you. >>> ready to begin. good morning. today is wednesday, june 19, 2013. this is a regular meeting of the b

melgar has a question for you? >> it was for kelly. and i was going to say thank you very much kelly for doing this. we appreciate it. i actually had a couple of subsequent questions after i talked to you. like i said to you it's not the large projects that i'm worried about at all because those guys can afford it and usually have the resources. it's the smaller ones that i'm worried about. it was after reading the ordinance as proposed, i'm wondering if there are any ways to circumvent this if there is an emergency for example replacement of a sewer main which is common for older buildings that might require significant excavation. how does that look? if someone needs to do it right away. and the other thing is i'm wondering if there is any guiding plan in terms of site history, are there companies vetted or what you are the qualifications for someone to produce that site history and subsequent to that, a related question, is it possible if the health department is really taxed or if we get to the point where there are a backup in ter

yes, melgar? yes, walker? yes, the motion carries unanimously. we'll go on to item no. 7. >> do we swear in? >> he's not here. he's on vacation. >> will he come before us? >> i can do it at the office. i'm able to swear in people as well. >> we go straight to the chair. i would like to have him present at some point so that we can meet him and the swearing in can go whenever, but i would like to meet him. >> we'll do the swearing in here. >> okay. we'll do it here at the full commission. >> great. thank you. next, 7. go ahead madam secretary. >> item 7: discussion and possible action to approve and swear in a member of the code advisory committee commercial property owner/manager seat. appointment recommended by the nominations sub-committee is: henry karnilowicz. seat to expire august 18, 2016. additional eligible applicants reviewed by the nominations subcommittee that the bic also may consider include: jacqueline mohanna, roozbeh falahati, and mark lawin. >> item 7: discussion and possible action to approve and swear in a member of the code ad

commissioner mccray, commissioner mccarthy, commissioner lee, commissioner walker and vice-president melgar is expected. we have a quorum. the next item is item b. i have and announcement. there is going to be a continuance of item b. presidio avenue. this case will not be heard today. the next item is b. the oath. please raise your right hand to be sworn. do you swear the testimony that you are about to give to be the truth to the best of your knowledge? thank you. be seated. item c. approval of minutes. discussion and possible action for adoption of minutes of april 17, 2013. >> move to approve. >> second. >> we have a motion and a second. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> all in favor? aye. any opposed? the minutes are approved. >> the next item b continued appeals. i want to announce that since these cases were previously heard, the appellant and department will have three minutes to present their case. item e continued appeals for jurisdiction. case no. 6772 san bruno avenue. no. 1 to no. 4. richard thomas environment and land management.

into that for everybody that walks in the door and i think it's helpful and i will like commissioner melgar said that it would help to be transparent. so we make it available so people know what to expect when they walk in the door. >> commissioner mar? >> i feel like a lot of our discussion, i do want to make a distinction between large projects and small. we are happy with the cranes in the air, i feel with a lot of the smaller jobs, we want people to pull permits. we want to make it easy to get a permit and pay for a permit and do things the right way. that's the spiel that i always give whenever i'm out. in order to do that, that's whenever those stair plans and deck plans, those are great because we want someone to do is you don't need an expediter for the small people. you get a good general or good architect and anybody should be able to get a permit in this city. maybe that's the perception. maybe the public's perception is wrong but it's our job to correct that perception so they will do the right thing. like an education, if you want to do an awning, that's the time to do this. if

. >> commissioner melgar? >> yeah. i want to say this you for your due diligence. thank you so much. i wish we had better cooperation. i don't know if cooperation is the right word but coordination in terms of the -- thank you so much for this work. >> on the infrastructure might we need rental space for parking in the future budget for housing or whatever we do with them? >> yes. we budgeted that we would need to be able to park the cars. it's hard for us to know exactly how much that is. i mean, my assumption is that by the time that we get these cars, we'll be looking at next fiscal year and we'll be budgeting for more rental space. it's going to be a challenge even if we weren't getting -- they were very -- the mayor's office was very generous in an allowing us to purchase so many additional cars. i think we are the only department that is staffing up with cars as much as we are. >> okay. >> thank you. once again. if you could find out for us where we stand with other cities, are we ahead of the curve here, i find this is a good public relation of our city that