there's a lot riding for the chinese on making sure this equipment is reliable and does its job well melinda stay with us if you will because as german shops reopened for business a top court in the german state of both varia has ruled against parts of the country's relaxation of pandemic restrictions the new rules a lot of some small shops to open i have a large business is with 800 square meters of space must remain closed roped off large sections of the sales flow restriction court says it's unconstitutional so now the decision only affects the very. sort of melinda crane so we have this decision for bavaria what's it likely to mean for the other german states. it has only an advisory. influence at most on the other german federal states but i think they will certainly be looking at it because this cut off with the $800.00 square metres has been controversial also in other places including here in berlin but here's the bottom line what has been made very clear is that this relaxation of the shutdown restrictions depends on everybody starts businesses workplaces and individuals complying with s

not work out well for this very very open german economy in future all right that's melinda crane thank you. now stay here in germany the munich based institute for economic research has just released its latest business climate survey results it shows german business confidence plummeted to a record low in april as firms french of the corona virus for us now we've invited the president off the institute's to talk more on that caymans forest joins me from new nick welcome to the devaney mystifies so german business has never been this pessimistic about the future what does that mean materiality it means that they will reconsider their plan they will certainly invest less of a may dismiss people make up the labor force the survey also tells us that their current business situation is very bad so that means the money that is coming in the sales they still have very low and that means they are accumulating losses and that of course reinforces the trend to cut back spending to cut back cap ex so the crisis is getting deeper here ok has they've been a support for business and what do you make of the rescu

melinda, i think you're absolutely right. americans deserve a lot of credit. they did listen to the warnings and stayed home.emi-normal phase that you spoke of, that sounded like months and months of that, if a vaccine is still not until 2021, that's many, many months of this new normal. >> that's right. it's almost certainly over a year where large public gatherings likely won't be taking place, we're likely to be using masks, even in restaurants, there will be some degree of spacing. the asian countries that saw the disease first are still requiring all of these things. and so we need to learn from them. they've been able to do it without seeing a big rebound. so that definitely is good news. the contact tracing, we have to do that in a twway that preserv privacy because of the values we have. and that's very achievable if we put the right system in place behind it. >> our thanks to david. >>> up next, in times of uncertainty, why wait for happily ever after? to severe rheumatoid arthritis. oof i can fie proof i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. proof of less joint pain... ...and clearer ski

melinda, i think you're absolutely right. i think americans deserve a lot of credit in this because they did listen to the warnings and they have stayedoking for reassurance now. and i'm struck, bill, by when you were talking about the phases, the semi-normal phase that you spoke of. that sounded like months and months of that, if a vaccine is still not until 2021. that's many, many months of this new normal. >> that's right. it's almost certainly over a year where large public gatherings likely won't be taking place. >> we're going to have a much longer conversation with them both on a vaccine, and whether there will be a second wave in our country, and whether we have immunity. tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern on my instagram and the "world news tonight" instagram. what they'll reveal on their major donation. now $250 million. >>> we're back with more on a major explosion, and the images coming in. working day in, day out. at&t is here. providing support with advanced services for first responders. and connected temporary hospitals, mobile testing sites and emergency management centers. because until their job is done, it is essential tha

stay well and keep it golden. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> stephen: hey, everybody, we're back with bill gates from the bill and melinda gates foundationtion is buying researchers time to find the answers that we feed. what is your -- that we need. what is your most hopeful time frame for how long we have to live the way we are now? >> well, there are two ways out. one is if we get miracle therapeutics that are greater than 95% cure rate. we can't count on that. the other is a vaccine that's highly effective that we get out to the world population. you know, some of those vaccines, you know, we'll understand by this summer, we'll see because they're going into humans now, we'll see if they get this strong antibody response and then we have to do broad safety testing and get the manufacturing going. so even a year from now, even if everything went perfectly because we're backing ten of the leading constructs, we could start the manufacturing. then again, this disease could be hard to make a vaccine, so it could be more like two years. so quite a range of possibilities there. but every day, when i see the engagement of these vaccine grou

what melinda would tell her gym class in binghamton, new york, but with students out of school due to the coronavirus of course she has come up with a new way for her high school students to staymsticks, she is using milk cartons for 1-2 minute daily fitness challenges. these bite-size videos haven't proven to not only be a hit with the students but with the families. that's one terrific teacher, she has not with the virus keep her from keeping her young students engaged and active. thank you, that's great teachi teaching. >> you know it's me now, and it's not often, it's not ever a fact that i'm wrong. today i mistake the my math calculations and in fact i said that a half a percent of a thousand is 50 when in fact it's five. but the fact is that it still stands because five times five is one. i will not say the producer should have caught this but i have to take responsibility for that. it wasn't the producer's fault that they had this monologue all day and failed to do any back checking on the map, but it's not their fault. it's the responsibility lies with me and not the producer mike lamarck. >> you said i had your back. let's roll. i'm ♪ [laughs] oh gosh, that was fun. l