i am melissa france isz and we'll bring in simon rosenburg and a former clinton campaign advisor and matt slap. matt he got suck in theed vortex of talking about that whole idea of how many illegal voter and he kind of went asked and answered. he got back into it? why? >> he's being solicitous to the press. and the more than one question and a slight spirit and as the days go forward, melissa, he will say he answered the question and move o. there is a great line. i refer to the gentleman and the answer i gave moments ago. >> melissa: he said i haven't talked to him and i will get back to you. and other things, i can't tell you at the time. and the speed of his answers. sitting here with shannon we appreciated that we went through things. but he did engage on that question of the illegal voters a number of times which makes me think it is deliberate and trying to keep that conversation alive. >> oh, i don't know. maybe. listen, i know sean spicer and been on paenls with him and he is a very smart guy. this is a tough job and new administration with few people with experience work not

melissa: you say everybody has to take a stand. one person who didn't take a specific stand depending how you look at it, last night miss universe's competition, miss frances asked about an open borders. i will talk for a long time, so everyone can look at the girl in the bathing suit. she was asked about open borders. it was like a rorschach answer in my book. see if you can tell what she was trying to say. >> >> translator: so the country should have the right to open or close their borders. having open borders allows us to travel more through the world and to find out more about what is out there in the world. melissa: so, it should be left up to the country whether you want open or closed borders. in a way, it is kind of a clever answer, it means nothing. you could hear from what you want. if you want to close them. we have right to decide. we won't close them. if you want open borders, that is great too. >> i'm sorry i was looking at women in the bikini. melissa: exactly. that was the point bringing her into this discussion frankly. >> i like the french accent as well. listen, there is no advantage in the middle. people used to think it was a good id