and professor melissa murray of nyu law school. she was a law clerk for sonia sotomayor on the federal bench before her nomination to the supreme court. okay joyce let us start with the target letter. deprivation of rights, conspiracy to defraud the u.s. and tampering with a witness. what does all of this mean in the case? especially the rights statute. >> what this means for starters is that donald trump is almost certainly to be indicted for prosecutors to send the target letter to this defendant in this case, means that they are certain that they have sufficient evidence to indict. you know, simone, i think it is important to say that we do not know precisely what is in this target letter. these letters can be formal, there is simply something prosecutors used to put a defendant on notice, that they are about to be indicted. that is usually what this means. and so it is typical that there will be some sense but it will be pretty generic that these are the charges the government is considering bringing against you. or it could be

first, plus law professor and former clerk to judge sonia soda mayer, melissa murray will join us to talk about the impact of the supreme court decisions. and when it comes to the uncertainty now facing billions of college deviants and graduates, education secretary, miguel cardona will talk about the next steps for the biden administration. also ahead this hour, she's the first openly transgender person to ever be elected and serve in the state legislature. i sat down with virginia delegate, danika roem, for this week's weekend routine. ♪ ♪ ♪ if you're watching the advance of this week i'm worried that social progress in this country is backsliding. you are not alone. of course it doesn't help when the person responsible for the supreme court's conservative supermajority, donald trump, is taking a victory lap. and the republican party seems intent on renominating him. despite the fact that he can -- convicted felon. it's important to acknowledge here that it is a very real possibility that he could actually win. everybody needs to be sober about that. the latest national polling fro

joining me now is a new york university law professor melissa murray. professor, very busy week for the supreme court of our nation, and we need you to help us with some analysis of the major rulings. six conservative justices, all six, were appointed by republican presidents, voted to undo race based affirmative action in university admissions thursday. and i argue, that precedent can be used in other areas. my first question is who will be most directly affected by this ruling, and how? are the implications for this ruling beyond just universities, and for example, in the workplace. >> so, truly this ruling will be -- attempted to be used in other venues. we are already seeing conservatives lining up to extend the ruling to other venues. but it's really important to understand what was at stake here. the race based affirmative action policies that were dismantled here, the court talked about it as the race was an entirely determinative feature of the admissions decision. but that wasn't the case. based on earlier supreme court presidents like meter ve

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"the beat" with melissa murray in for ari starts now. >> welcome to "the beat." i'm melissa murray in for ari melber. and we start tonight with breaking news. the special counsel has reportedly interviewed donald trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, in recent weeks as part of the january 6th probe. apparently they are looking into trump's intent. "the new york times" reports that prosecutors have questioned multiple witnesses over the past few weeks, including jared kushner, and questioned them about whether trump had privately acknowledged in the days after the 2020 election that he had actually lost. the line of questioning suggests that prosecutors are trying to establish whether trump was acting with corrupt intent. remember, kushner also spoke to the january 6th committee last year. >> jared, are you aware of instances where pat cipollone threatened to resign? >> i kind of -- like i said, my interest at that time was on trying to get as many pardons done, and i know that, you know, he was always -- him and the team were always saying, oh, we're going to resign

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the beat with melissa murray starts right now. >> thank you. welcome to the beat. i'm in for ari. we're tracking several developing stories including a big legal setback for donald trump. late today, the supreme court rejected his efforts to disqualify the fulton county probe into 2020 election interference. more on that ahead. but we begin tonight with revelations about donald trump's scheme for an historic power grab as his allies fought a second trump term would fear guardrails in what critics say would be an imperial presidency. "the new york times" is reporting on a far reaching plan on election deniers subpoena by jack smith. at the time, the plan would be a quote sleeping expansion of presidential power of the machinery of government. reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly into his hands. under the plan, trump would bring quote independent agencies under his control. he would provide the practice of refusing to send money proep rated by congress since the days of richard nixon. more chillingly, trump intends to strip pr

joining me to discuss is melissa murray, professor and it's great to see you.rst i'm going to start with this. fox news has made an industry, i mean, they are the industry leader into grotesque insinuations against individuals. there were democratic conspiracies about children and murders and everything else like that. what is sort of the significance from a legal stance of somebody who is a trump supporter and fox viewer saying, hey, look, your lies were fine when you talked about covid and barack obama being from another country but now that you're lying about me, i'm upset. >> it's a great question. mr. epps, who is a prospective litigant is a private citizen. for purposes of defamation law, he has less to claim. defamation is a hard road to ho to be sure. in situations like this one where a private individual is alleging that a company falsely said these things about him, that they knew that these were falsehoods and they nonetheless went forward and published them to third parties as fox may have done in the circumstances by talking about this on air, then

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joining me now, for zuri senator and msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill, melissa murray msnbc legal analyst and professor at nyu school of law. neil former acting solicitor general of the united states msnbc legal analyst and host of the podcast courtside. and anthony, former director at the office of public affairs for the department of justice and msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst. thank you all very much for coming to the saudis show. we've got a lot to talk about. and a lot of time to do it. so i'm happy about that. unless start with the prosecutors. clear, i'm gonna come to you first. i want to talk about the potential charges that donald trump could face. we know that in the trump target letter that was sent to donald trump, there are three statutes that are cited. one is conspiracy to commit an offense and defraud. the other is conspiracy against rights. and the third is obstruction. clare, starting with you, what do you make of those potential charges and the fact that incitement to insurrection is one of them. >> well, i think what most prosecutors will do is look at

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the beat with melissa murray starts right now. >> thank you. welcome to the beat. i'm in for ari.g legal setback for donald trump. late today, the supreme court rejected his efforts to