san jose scored one off the stick of melkker karlsson. he tells us this. >> what did you see? >> i tried to hold him off, but everyone does it. >> they haven't called many penalty ies in this series. >> they call something and then they don't. but, i mean -- yeah. >> how frustrating is it to keep playing from behind? >> yeah, it's frustrating and haunting all the time. it's not a big lead when you're coming in third. unfortunately, they scored. >> it was changing all over the place, it looked like. you started getting more chances up and down. >> i don't know. more frustration just going. today i think we outshot them. it's hard [ inaudible ] [ inaudible question ] >> it's effective when you get going. just get the puck from there. >> you're on the brink of elimination. how does it feel? >> of course, there's another game. if we get that one it's game over. >> that was a rough day for the sharks. not only the 3-1 loss here in game 4 but also news that hurdle will miss the rest of the season, will miss the rest of the stanley cup series. we'll talk about that report in just a s