he specifically directed the irs to submit testimony under oath about efforts to get those in melsonre were. two times they file information, two separate requests. the judge was quite specific. of what all the info. it declined to provide the information about the back of systems. we ask them sense, will you amend their declarations of the report to the court that was given? they said no. this is extraordinary stonewalling, even for this of ministration. lou: and the judge in this case, of this judge insist that the truth be told? that the court be honored by at least a chip of the hat from an organization this administration that refuses to obey law. >> you know, i think we have a good argument that the judge needs to allow us to give more information, put some of these officials under oath ourselves. we are going to bring it to the judge's attention as soon as we are able. judge sullivan is an appointee of president clinton. if you are on the wrong side of a federal judge and he gives the fda you're playing games with an, this is not a member of congress. he is not going to forget

eileen melson breaks the story. decades. and there are many cases the one that is -- that is the most analogous to the iraqi war would be the vietnam war. i have a chapter on that which kind of comes right after the prologue. and, of course, you look at the reception. we basically were provoking in instigating and invading the air, water, and land ruffian on for months before they attacked us. they get a resolution for war. basically the defacto equivalent within six days. there are only two dissenting u.s. senators. that became the declaration of war. the truth of all when was it officially, formerly emerging? 1971. think of this. we have operation rolling thunder in 64. the early part of 64. in the fall of 64 lyndon johnson is left with the landslide. one of my key close, will never go nine dozen miles to be in them. anyway, some he lied. he was planning everything and just said. these are examples. there are all listed in carefully analyzed, tobacco, the first city in the world of tobacco the was conclusive, notable, and