and i said, "that's melzack, i know it is." so i got on the phone.e says, "i'll give you $30,000." so i says, "okay," and i bought that building. the whole thing opens up into a kind of growing field. now, feelings that are too strong are hopeless. you go mad. you say, "enough, goodbye!" ah! so there is a kind of artistic, maybe, feeling which is not too strong, not too weak, and it just seems as if you can put yourself up against it. you can almost push against that so that it's there for you. and if you sense that, then you don't have to see your painting anymore. if you put paint there, you're putting it into that feeling. ah! nobody i know has ever painted like that, but that's how i painted for the last 40, 50 years. ahhh! enough. [ sighs ] [ sighing ] ah! i'm tired. technique -- i have no technique. i'll tell you though, what it amounts to is, a painting has to be occupied. all the parts have to be active. it has to have feeling. now, this feeling doesn't have to be so physical, but it has to be as if i come at you, and you're suddenly frighten