had a situation in mena luckett, new jersey and fire island where they did not know what they were supposed to do. they did not want to rebuild the copper network, but they also need -- they also had no guidance for what they should be doing instead. order tothe fcc, in address this problem of public safety, needs to get out there and started pressing right now. as we do this transition, we know that carriers will want to as in new infrastructure they rebuild after storms like sandy. what are their responsibilities? what are they supposed to do and what can people in those communities rely on an order to be able to rebuild their lives? had 17 other public interest organizations join us in asking the fcc to begin a proceeding on this and hopefully aswill see action on that soon as chairman will it is confirmed. >> with the chairman's approval , go ahead. >> i may. i want to make sure that we embrace the small and middle sized business market. a lot of the conversation here focuses on residential and that is certainly important to the charge that i see on the site here talks about a degradati