thing about a company like menatech, they recognize when god made us, he gave us the right fuel. and that fuel was the right kind of healthy food. and that's why i was drawn to it. because it recognized, you know, the influence on health of natural foods. >> beckel, pulitzer-prize winning website said that carson was false with what he said at the debate. should something like this stick? >> well, it can stick and will stick. it's not necessarily about jeb bush about everybody in this thing. listen, carson just flat lied. there's a number of sources out there now that was involved with them, even after they paid the fine pour false advertising. i think he's now going to be asked, whether he goes please explain what he meant. because what he said was not right. it was a flat-out lie. >> he may be asked that, mr. beckel, i'm convinced, matt, when tough questions come up, rogue response is this is media bias. carly fiorina was asked by alisyn on cnn, i can't believe i'm being asked that question. >> one of the things with "the wall street journal" and national review and those not c