meredith berkman from parents against vaping, thank you for your time.you so much. -- thank you so much. back—to—school season is in full swing in the us. and for many university students, that means taking on more debt. student loans are now the second biggest source of personal debt in america, higher than credit cards or car loans. the bbc‘s laura trevelyan met two groups of students, those just starting school, and others about to enter world of work, and has this report. those who have taken out loans to help pay the cost of nearly 67,000 year, like these two, are diving into debt. i am looking at about $10,000 per year which is much lower than many of my peers but it is still above the national average. when you graduate, you will owe $40,000? at the very least. amelia's education costs are even more. coming here, i have to pay for about $30,000 a year myself. that is about $120,000 in debt when i graduate. so it's a lot of money and it's very stressful. already, both students are worrying about how this debt will affect their ability to do the pub

after seeing caleb's experience with e-cigarettes, his mother meredith berkman cofounded parents againstcigarettes, or pave. >> we are an army of parents. i refer to myself as a mom- vocate. we're an army of motivated mom- e cates, who are not going to allow our kids to become a generation of nicotine addicts. >> reporter: some health advocates are pushing for higher taxes on e-cigarette products and want the same regulations that ban indoor smoking applied to vaping. norah. no o'donnell: really interesting, jon, thank you. and coming up, gymnastics superstar simone biles breaks her silence over her brother's arrest in a triple murder. murder. ♪ ♪ you name it. the ford f-150 will tow up to 13,200 pounds of it. ♪ so bob, what do you take for back pain? before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu. so much more than i could have imagined. my grandfather was born in a shack in pennsylvania, his father was a miner, they were immigrants fr