and i'm going to sit in on this first panel, but i'll introduce first meriam nesbitt, who is known to everyone here in the audience, i'm sure, and hopefully more and more people out in the viewing audience, as the -- i can't say new director. she's the founding director of the office of government information services. it's been in existence since september of 2009. so it's been 2 1/2 years. it either feels like it's been ten years or only four weeks, depending upon probably one day to the next within the office of government information services, ogis for short, just like foia for short. miriam is someone who came back from paris, to her husband's dismay, to accept that senior service position of ogis. >> he was with me. >> oh, i'm not implying a breakup. as a matter of fact, i saw him back there in washington. but michael made it very clear to me had you turned that job down and allowed him to stay as a kept man in paris, france, for the near future, that would have been fine with him. fair, fair characterization? >> oh, yeah. >> anything beyond that is exception 6 information, and