there are statues of him and the same with jimmie rodgers in meridian, mississippi. country music, hank williams, jimmie rodgers, johnny cash, are so much part of the american grain that i can't think of the 20th century without the voice of hank williams. so it was great the pulitzer -- >> i think what i'm saying is you would have two sides of this here because it's often said that the broadway musical was america's unique contribution to the world, but in fact county music is at least as, if not more, distinctly american. >> switching subjects again, i want to play for you an audio tape. you'll recognize the voice and you'll understand that this has never been played before. it's been released just recently. this is from october of 1968. you have to keep that in mind. let's run it. >> it's lyndon johnson. >> oh, yes, mr. president, how are you? >> i hope i'm not interrupting your dinner. >> no, no, we finished some time ago. >> gordon, we -- i just learned tonight our folks have been out looking at these libraries, and is there no way in the world that we could rec