maria: welcome back manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and juan mershon working together to deprivets in the new york trial. all of this according to judiciary report, the committee says their findings should prompt the court new york appellate courts to reverse the verdict, the 35 report outlines the committee's findings since it launched its probe into the case last march senate majority leader chuck schumer is announcing plans to advance legislation to strip trump of the immunity that he was granted under the recent supreme court ruling protecting the president official acts from criminal prosecution, joining the active u.s. attorney general matt whitaker, great to see you, thank you so much for being here, we really appreciate it. we have a lot to talk about, first let's take your take on the scotus ruling, we know the supreme court ruled president trump does have immunity for official acts in the white house. immunity from any prosecution but schumer wants to reverse that, your thoughts? >> chuck schumer is obviously wrong on this. the supreme court laid on the immunity decisio

he says judge mershon moving the sentencing to mid-september is smart, it gives trump and da time tow mid- september sentencing date will make it very hard for trump to then be able to appeal this before the election as he will have to appeal within new york state courts first. there seems to be a little bit of some chess play here between what the supreme court is trying to blow up and what judges like mershon and chuck can are trying to do to salvage their cases. how do you see it? is andrew on point with his tweet? >> i think he is. i think what we saw judge marchand do at what he has continued to do throughout the trial is take crude and appropriate steps. i think this delay was a good housekeeping step that would allow both sides, both the prosecution and defense to provide briefings to the judge, after this opinion. the larger question in the room here, michael is, what the ultimate punishment will be. i am of the opinion that everyone does not share this view, i think donald trump should already have been in jail for any number of his actions, not just in this case that you ar

i think judge mershon will hear arguments from both sides as to whether the sentencing should be delayed. i don't think the sentencing, i mean, he has been convicted. you don't throw something like that out lately. i think the sentencing, even if it is delayed, will likely proceed and that if there is any substance to their request to have the verdict, the jury's verdict thrown out because of today's radical supreme court ruling i think that is something that will happen at the appeals court. but we shall see. we are waiting here for him now, essentially. >> i have everyone we could possibly think of to ask that question two tonight. lawrence tribe is going to start us off. andrew wiseman can handle that one. listen, mari is here, former clerk to justice sotomayor. of course, neil county all. experts all the way out, i just have to get out of the way. >> okay. out of your way. >> thank you, rachel. thank you. >>> today the united states supreme court granted donald trump immunity for conduct described in exactly two paragraphs. of a 130 paragraph indictment, the rest of the indictment ag

you this week, donald trump asks judge juan mershon overturn his criminal conviction, arguing that itd be invalidated because of the court's decision that courts have immunity for quote, acts, this is after judge mershon pushed back his sentencing in the case to consider the impact of the ruling. and state attorney for palm beach county is here. >> thank you for being with us. so, there is theplease of this and there is also the dave check and part of this. and what you can be saved from the indictment, which includes trump strong-arming the justice department, pressuring mike pence, jawboning state lawmakers in a fake electorate scheme, statements about january 6th. talk about the gift that the supreme court has given to us. >> yeah. it is a gift, strong-arming of the justice department will be gone. that is part of the president's core constitutional powers, but the other stuff within his official acts will be given a presumption of immunity that can be overcome. and i think that jack smith will be to overcome that. other stuff, like medications, his tweets, his speech, near the cap

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trumps lawyers asked one mershon for the delay so they can review how the supreme court decision affects this case. they want the judge to set the conviction aside. here's what is interesting. prosecutors did not oppose the delay but said trumps argument is not going to hold up. the judge signed off on the delay and said he would issue the ruling on the question of immunity on september 6. it is unclear exactly how the supreme court decision could affect this particular case, and many experts say that is precisely the problem. the justices implemented a new sliding scale of immunity that must be decided on a point by point basis, where each individual decision can be argued over and appealed, and that likely means plenty more delays. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel tonight. lisa rubin is here, our msnbc legal correspondent. axe's political reporter hans nichol and mckay hopkins, staff writer for the atlantic and msnbc political contributor. lisa, it's legal which means you are definitely going first tonight. what are the actual chances that this conviction

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prosecutor katie krukowski in manhattan prosecutor elliot feeling, welcome to you both, judge juan mershonntencing how this impacts the new york case and what ways might listen penn in impact the verdict with the sentencing. >> ultimately i don't think the motion to vacate based on the new supreme court decision will be successful, the lower court the trial is a place where you should hear the argument that's only place you can begin new evidence and arguments and you cannot do that at the appellate level. it did cause the delay in the district attorney's office and the judge were right to consent to the delay because this is where they should be litigated but ultimately the question is similarly litigated unsuccessfully by the trauma team when they try to remove the case to federal court back in 2023, i think the judge in the d.a. did the right thing by consenting to delay the sentencing, i don't ultimately think the motion is going to be successful. trey: let's listen to what are essentially public therapy some on the left are engaged in and we'll talk about on the other side. >> if lead

agreeing to a potential delay, trump would have to file by july july 24th, do you think that judge mershonees? >> d.a. here is vowing to the inevitable, and this is a test to see if judge merch on really is going to do his duty or is he related that bias against president trump? because this weeks decision granting him immunity, one thing that has not been noticed is that it applies in state court, it does not just apply to jacks my special counsel investigation. it applies to the d.a. investigation in new york and fanny will assist prosecution in georgia. so all of these cases have to go back and say and look at was presidents conduct he has been prosecuted for with official acts or nonofficial acts, and even if bragg were to claim that all the activity was involved with president trump president trump's nonofficial acts, he still has to scrutinize and clear out anything in the case that made reference to or used president trump's conduct while president and his official capacity to make sure it did not infect his trial. so this should delay unless these guys are trying to relay railroad

trump if he was convicted of a felony, obviously he was convicted in the ridiculous trial, judge mershonn new york, imagine that what was that about. >> i think people like bennie thompson, i doubt he'll pay a political price although he should. these people become so diluted and trump become so inhuman to them that they say whatever they want to say and they come up with plans like this. i was struck by melania and trump's thing today. she humanized him and her family and said this is a man, he is my husband, the father my son, we love him. i thought that was so powerful and it flies in the face of hitler. >> i think you members of congress i was there and you see them play off the messaging of the national press. i'm to get a lot of love on cnn and msnbc if i introduce a bill that will take away secret service protection from donald trump. bottom line i'm a member of congress, responsible for all presidential candidates to make sure that they have protection against crazies like we saw yesterday. but it shows what a hack bennie thompson is in the lead that january 6, shameful. laura: h

why did juan mershon's hush money case say the sentencing will take place on a date tbd, if necessaryge. he said, i am not going to say this is a ridiculous motion and set aside the judgment. he will review the motion to set aside the judgment, which is, by the way, motion to set aside the verdict, i am sorry, which is allowed under new york state law, anytime before sentencing, a defendant may do that on limited grounds. one of the grounds is what trump's defense attorneys have done. he is a fair and impartial judge. he will hear them out and hear the prosecution response and make his decision. he had to say sentencing. clearly, if he agrees the motion should be granted, there will be no sentencing. i have confidence in the new york court that they may find that even if there were official acts that were allowed into evidence and the supreme court says they are not allowed to, they are not overly prejudicial that the conviction should be reversed. i don't have confidence this conviction is upheld by the new york appellate courses. the supreme court will see it the same. >> you're liv

judge mershon here in new york delay trumps sentencing based on the immunity decision and saying if that should be sentenced or raised any doubts about the trial itself. he gave him a very good faith delay, if you will. judge aileen cannon on the other hand, saw the decision from thomas, saw the language in that opinion and immediately used it and cited in her excuse to dismiss this case and it just goes to show you how we have two different systems operating right now in terms of how we view the law. >> it is fascinating that cannon went this direction when honestly like you said in the intro, this is how -- smith was appointed the way most special councils have been since the special counsel regulations were drawn up by democrats and republicans agree to it over these years. republicans have used special councils. democrats have now. it's wild that she would take a swing at this from the direction of thomas under the appointments clause of the constitution same because smith isn't confirmed because he is a superior officer under the constitution that was the argument that she made when

judge, juan mershon approved it earlier yesterday after they argued for the supreme court's immunityrrespondent, lisa rubin. so, lisa, first of all, were you surprised this delay, and secondly, what do these months now by trump's legal team? >> i wasn't surprised that there was a delay of some sort. that trump would allow there to be a briefing on the verdict particularly after the new york da's office said they would consent to that briefing. what surprised me was the amount of delay that were postponing the sentencing if that happens at all. those were the judge's words, not mine, till september 18th. that was the surprise. >> so, july 11th, originally scheduled that was a week from now, september 18 that it could be later than that. so, what is the link here, as you look at it, between the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity and what we are seeing now. what could trump's team argue, could they argue for a new trial? >> they are not even arguing for a new trial. they are arguing to set aside the verdict completely and their argument is this. that the supreme court's d

i think judge mershon, if he were to determine that these were official acts, and i will say again thatf you were to determine that, he can also determine you know what? there was such a mountain of evidence, even if you took these acts out, the jury was still found guilt. often, cases are reversed through an appeal because presidential evidence was and that was so prejudicial that it denied the defendant the right to a fair trial so the court of appeals in new york reversed harvey weinstein's conviction on that basis but often they will find evidence was prejudicial but harmless, so there's no need to reverse the conviction, which can happen in this case. >> harmless error. we all have to learn the trump era in american politics, we all have to learn to be many lawyers. we all have to learn all the jargon. we have to learn how all these things work. you should not have to learn this much criminal law to follow politics but that is where we are. i really appreciate you being here tonight to help us put these pieces together. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we will be right back. stay w

the new york supreme court justice on mershon -- juan merchand said he would rule on those motions september. and also here is the washington times headline on our other story, which is the first democrat urges biden to withdraw. representative lloyd doggett became the first democratic member of congress to call on president biden's to step aside and let some and replace them atop the party's ticket. he praised mr. biden but said the stakes are too high for the party to roll the dice against former president donald trump after mr. biden's confused performance in last week's debate. he has an opportunity to encourage a new generation of leaders from whom a nominee can be chosen to unite our country through an open democratic process. let's look at what the white house press secretary said yesterday when she was asked about his debate performance and members of congress asking for him to step out. >> first, we understand the concerns. the president did not have a great night, as you know. many of you reached out during the debate. the president had a cold and a horse for -- voice. i will say t

the new york supreme court justice on mershon -- juan merchand said he would rule on those motions september. and also here is the washington times headline on our other story, which is the first democrat urges biden to withdraw. representative lloyd doggett became the first democratic member of congress to call on president biden's to step aside and let some and replace them atop the party's ticket. he praised mr. biden but said the stakes are too high for the party to roll the dice against former president donald trump after mr. biden's confused performance in last week's debate. he has an opportunity to encourage a new generation of leaders from whom a nominee can be chosen to unite our country through an open democratic process. let's look at what the white house press secretary said yesterday when she was asked about his debate performance and members of congress asking for him to step out. >> first, we understand the concerns. the president did not have a great night, as you know. many of you reached out during the debate. the president had a cold and a horse for -- voice. i will say t