as merton said, you know, if you think you have arrived, you're lost. people in the world come, you know, they come here on retreat. they ask me, "how long have you been here?" i answer as, what, another elsewhere, 52 years. but it is a fiction. how long have i been here? excuse me, i haven't gotten here yet. >> for "religion and ethics newsweekly," this is judy valente at the abbey of gethsemani. >> we wish brother paul great fulfillment in his perpetual state of becoming. we have another story today about worship, this one about christian relics. in medieval times, relics were greatly prized, a fragment of a body of a disciple of christ or another holy person. there's an exhibit of these relics and their elaborate containers, reliquaries, at the. it's a joint project of the walters, the cleveland museum of art, and the british museum in london. we got a guided tour from the walters' curator, martina bagnoli. >> a relic is usually a remains of the body of a holy person, could also be something that this holy person had touched. the saints were not touc