and he called me, merv, you have to undergo treatment, what are you doing out there? i said, i will, i will, i will. by this time, i'd forgotten. he ruined my whole day when he called. you got cancer, remember? >> larry: shortly thereafter merv would pass away from the disease he tended to overlook. by the way, there is a number to call if you want more information, 1-800-757-cure or logon to pcf.org. it's the prostate cancer foundation. joining our panel from dodgers stadium in los angeles, the manager of the los angeles dodgers. joe torre. he's a prostate cancer survivor. joe, how did you discover you had it? >> well, larry, it was just my regular, routine checkup. actually, i used to -- i took a stress test before i went to spring training. this was in '99. and they discovered that my -- my psa had elevated. it was, like, 2.6, and it was -- no, excuse me, 4.6 from about 2.6. and my doctor, my cardiologist said, when you get down to florida, have it checked again. they checked it again. it stayed the same. i had a biopsy taken, and lo and behold, threat was, i had p